Battle For Evidence?

Challenger, You seem to put a great deal of faith in atheism. It must be difficult in proving that God doesn’t exist. Damien Marie AtHope, I seem to have a rational standard to what I believe. I am epistemically rational and value the ethics of belief. Addressing The Ethics of Belief: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/02/29/addressing-the-ethics-of-belief/ Challenger, How do you scientifically prove that randomness is your creator? Even physicists believe in a theory of everything, which means there is a divine stability of the universe. Damien Marie AtHope, You would be redefining what you accept as the term creator to that which is only saying everything is natural world connected. Yes, there is only natural world or it’s a non-real world claims to try and add magic god status when it has never even been shown to be anything supernatural. Challenger, The natural world is governed by a set of rules. Damien Marie AtHope, And? Don’t be Boxed in by Abstraction: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/12/15/dont-be-boxed-in-by-abstraction/ Challenger, My suspicion is that you suffer from pride. Damien Marie AtHope, Challenger and if I have all the pride in the world what does that have to do with my truth? Challenger, God hates pride. Damien Marie AtHope, Challenger what is a god? What is a god? Just an Empty Label: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/11/16/what-is-a-god-just-a-empty-label/ Challenger, When you pass into the next stage of life with such pride, you’re going to regret it. The beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord. Damien Marie AtHope, what is a Lord? I Am a Strong Atheist: “I am psychologically certain god(s) don’t exist”: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/11/05/i-am-a-strong-atheist-i-am-psychologically-certain-gods-dont-exist/ Challenger, According to the Bible, there is coming a day...

Two Atheists philosophers: debate “spiritual”

Two Atheists philosophers: Damien AtHope (Autodidact Philosopher) and Challenger (with a MA. Philosophy) debate “spiritual” Challenger, A lot of philosophers discuss “spiritual” things that have nothing to do with the supernatural. “Hadot acknowledges his use of the term “spiritual exercises” may create anxieties, by associating philosophical practices more closely with religious devotion than typically done (Nussbaum 1996, 353-4; Cooper 2010). Hadot’s use of the adjective “spiritual” (or sometimes “existential”) indeed aims to capture how these practices, like devotional practices in the religious traditions (6a), are aimed at generating and reactivating a constant way of living and perceiving in prokopta, despite the distractions, temptations, and difficulties of life. For this reason, they call upon far more than “reason alone.”” http://www.iep.utm.edu/hadot/#H5 Damien Marie AtHope, God has many definitions yet lack epistemic justification, If there is some “spiritual” I want to hear a clear and evidence rich offering with valid and reliable reason one evidence full with adherence to epistemic rationality. Challenger, Hadot’s concept of spiritual exercise is based on ancient philosophy and is quite secular in nature. It has been adopted quite a bit by a lot of cognitive behavior therapy as well. There is something to be said against viewing philosophy as a mere handmaiden to science, though. So, cognitive behavioral therapy is not necessarily needed to think there’s a philosophical point to spiritual exercises. I wrote a bit about this issue a long time ago here. https://www.facebook.com/notes/ethical-realism/what-it-really-means-to-be-spiritual/215937618383 Damien Marie AtHope, here are two of my blogs Spiritual Woo Woo, Trying to Make Magic of Reality  and Addressing The Ethics of Belief Challenger, The second link you posted right now is not...