Challenger, You seem to put a great deal of faith in atheism. It must be difficult in proving that God doesn’t exist.

Damien Marie AtHope, I seem to have a rational standard to what I believe. I am epistemically rational and value the ethics of belief. Addressing The Ethics of Belief: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/02/29/addressing-the-ethics-of-belief/

Challenger, How do you scientifically prove that randomness is your creator? Even physicists believe in a theory of everything, which means there is a divine stability of the universe.

Damien Marie AtHope, You would be redefining what you accept as the term creator to that which is only saying everything is natural world connected. Yes, there is only natural world or it’s a non-real world claims to try and add magic god status when it has never even been shown to be anything supernatural.

Challenger, The natural world is governed by a set of rules.

Damien Marie AtHope, And? Don’t be Boxed in by Abstraction: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/12/15/dont-be-boxed-in-by-abstraction/

Challenger, My suspicion is that you suffer from pride.

Damien Marie AtHope, Challenger and if I have all the pride in the world what does that have to do with my truth?

Challenger, God hates pride.

Damien Marie AtHope, Challenger what is a god? What is a god? Just an Empty Label: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/11/16/what-is-a-god-just-a-empty-label/

Challenger, When you pass into the next stage of life with such pride, you’re going to regret it. The beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord.

Damien Marie AtHope, what is a Lord? I Am a Strong Atheist: “I am psychologically certain god(s) don’t exist”: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/11/05/i-am-a-strong-atheist-i-am-psychologically-certain-gods-dont-exist/

Challenger, According to the Bible, there is coming a day when all of humanity will be forced to worship a deity. So, at some point in the future, you are going to throw away your current status in order to survive.

Damien Marie AtHope, Challenger why should we trust the Bible? Archaeology Disproves the Bible: http://damienmarieathope.com/2015/11/24/archaeology-disproves-the-bible/

Challenger, Because Jesus Christ conquered death. He promises us a new, glorified body like His where the saints will receive a new heaven and earth.

Damien Marie AtHope, why should we trust the Jesus? Debunking Jesus?: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/01/09/debunking-jesus/

Challenger, He gives us a purpose in this world. I enjoy His companionship and guidance, even His discipline.

Damien Marie AtHope, why should we trust the Christian purpose in this world? Christianity Believers: Consider This: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/10/17/christianity-believers-consider-this/

Challenger, Please understand that I don’t endorse any denomination. I was born Greek Orthodox and had to repent of some idolatry. Even going to a Baptist Church, I notice some things that are somewhat concerning.

Damien Marie AtHope, But do you see the god character of the bible as a moral or immoral being? Axiological Atheism Morality Critique: of the bible god: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/10/01/axiological-atheism-morality-critique-of-the-bible-god/

Challenger, To me, He is love. We may not see His plan right away, but as disciples, we trust His ways are always better than ours.

Damien Marie AtHope, How do you know it’s a male god even if you believe it’s true which you have only showed what you believe? Need to Mythicized: gods and goddesses: http://damienmarieathope.com/2015/10/15/need-to-mythicized-gods-and-goddesses/ And why should we trust the bible view of love? “What is love? Is it explainable even if explained?”: http://damienmarieathope.com/2015/08/23/what-is-love-is-it-explainable-even-if-explained/

Challenger, When Jesus Christ was born, He took on the male image.

Damien Marie AtHope, Challenger so you have proof there is a thing worthy of a god label then and only then can you try and claim what or who is or maybe connected to a thing called god? Bible Morality and a Genocidal god of Watery Death?: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/10/23/bible-morality-and-a-genocidal-god-of-watery-death/

Challenger, That’s the part of God no one likes. He is just and deals with sin justly. Otherwise, man (if left unchecked) would destroy everything in his path.

Damien Marie AtHope, How do you know the god of the bible you believe is just? What is “Justice”?: http://damienmarieathope.com/2015/12/18/what-is-justice/ And Ten Commandments: Ethics, Justice, or Laws?: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/02/08/ten-commandments-ethics-justice-or-laws/

Challenger, The Holy Spirit helps me walk in the spirit. Otherwise, I would return to my carnal nature. Man’s heart is evil. Also, because the Spirit intercedes for me, I am free from the law. The law is burdensome.

Damien Marie AtHope, what is a Holy Spirit? I Blaspheme the Unreal Unholy Bible Spirit called gOD: http://damienmarieathope.com/2015/07/26/i-blaspheme-the-unreal-unholy-bible-spirit-called-god/

Challenger, He is the third person of the Trinity. Jesus Christ said if you blaspheme the Holy Spirit, you will never be forgiven. When God says “fear,” He expects to be revered and honored.

Damien Marie AtHope, Challenger, Fear strengthens religious belief as seen in a combat study. As combat was more frightening, the percentage of soldiers who reported praying rose from 42 to 72%. In addition, another combat study reviewing combat veteran’s half a century later showed religion faith varied by their war experience and their positive or negative reactions to or about the war. As in ones who had more negative experience and reactions to or about the war the more religious they were. Soldiers who faced heavy combat attended church around twenty percent more often if they claimed their war experience was negative, but those who claimed their experience was positive attended church over twenty five percent less often. This highlights that those who try to say there are no atheists in foxholes, are not forming an argument against atheism, but instead are forming an argument against foxholes (war) and how fear is a large motivator for creating religionists/fideists. http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10943-013-9733-y Do you have an Openness to Critique?: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/11/28/openness-to-critique/ And, where in the bible does it say Trinity? It never uses that word rather it is assumed but how is this valid? Ethical Thinking or Moral Reasoning Should be Rational AND Emotional: http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/09/28/ethical-thinking-or-moral-reasoning-should-be-rational-and-emotional/

Challenger, Elohim is mentioned in Genesis, which implies a plural God. The pineal gland is considered the “third.eye” of the human body. This gland is able to communicate with the spiritual realm. Why do you suppose they add fluoride in our water supply?

Damien Marie AtHope, The pineal gland has a colorful and misunderstood history. It’s considered a somewhat mysterious organ, as its function was discovered last of the endocrine glands. The pineal gland was once dubbed the “third eye,” which originated for many reasons, ranging from its location deep in the center of the brain to its connection to light. Also, the French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes was fascinated with the pineal gland. He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.” However, his observations have been widely rejected. And while researchers are still learning about the full purpose of the pineal gland, they believe it most likely concerns melatonin—the only hormone that the gland is known to produce and release. Pineal Gland Essentials: Of the endocrine organs, the function of the pineal gland was the last discovered. Located deep in the center of the brain, the pineal gland was once known as the “third eye.” The pineal gland produces melatonin, which helps maintain circadian rhythm and regulate reproductive hormones. Anatomy of the Pineal Gland: Located near the center of the brain, the pineal gland is a very small organ shaped like a pine cone (which is where it gets its name). It’s reddish-gray and about 1/3 inch long. Pineal cells and neuroglial cells (which support the pineal cells) mainly comprise the gland. The pineal gland often appears calcified in x-rays, which is usually due to fluoride, calcium, and phosphorus deposits that build up with age. Melatonin: The Pineal Gland Hormone: The pineal gland secretes a single hormone—melatonin (not to be confused with the pigment melanin). This simple hormone is special because its secretion is dictated by light. Researchers have determined that melatonin has two primary functions in humans—to help control your circadian (or biological) rhythm and regulate certain reproductive hormones. Circadian Rhythm: Your circadian rhythm is a 24-hour biological cycle characterized by sleep-wake patterns. Daylight and darkness help dictate your circadian rhythm. Light exposure stops the release of melatonin, and in turn, this helps control your circadian rhythms. Melatonin secretion is low during the daylight hours and high during dark periods, which has some influence over your reaction to photoperiod (the length of day versus night). Naturally, photoperiod affects sleep patterns, but melatonin’s degree of impact over sleep patterns is disputed. Reproduction: Melatonin blocks the secretion of gonadotropins (luteinizing hormone and follicle stimulating hormone) from the anterior pituitary gland. These hormones aid in the proper development and functioning of the ovaries and testes. The pineal gland’s full purpose is still a bit of a mystery. But research suggests that we’re getting closer to understanding the pineal gland—and more about the endocrine system as a whole. https://www.endocrineweb.com/endocrinology/overview-pineal-gland

Damien Marie AtHope, what is spiritual? Personally I don’t know what spiritual realm means. I use to call myself a spiritual atheist but the more I learned the less I saw that as anything meaningful and was just my place holder carry over word from my religious past. What I meant by it was I say value and meaning in the world. That things where connect in some way. I now have a nonreligious word that states this and is more substantive and beneficially descriptive. Axiology or Axiological. Which stands for value theory or value science. And I call myself an Axiological Atheist. But its more than just that value is also a morality and humanistic motivation for my atheism. Spiritual Woo Woo, Trying to Make Magic of Reality: http://damienmarieathope.com/2015/10/22/spiritual-woo-woo-trying-making-magic-of-reality/

Challenger, Fluoxetine has been one of the most commonly used antidepressants and guess what it is composed of? Yup…fluoride. Are you currently taking any antidepressants? Do you drink tap water? If so, this may be why you are no longer spiritual.

Damien Marie AtHope, Challenger, How is any of that evidence for your supernatural claims? Personally I don’t know what spiritual realm means. I use to call myself a spiritual atheist but the more I learned the less I saw that as anything meaningful and was just my place holder carry over word from my religious past. What I meant by it was I say value and meaning in the world. That things where connect in some way. I now have a nonreligious word that states this and is more substantive and beneficially descriptive. Axiology or Axiological. Which stands for value theory or value science. And I call myself an Axiological Atheist. But its more than just that value is also a morality and humanistic motivation for my atheism.

Challenger, Fluoxetine has been one of the most commonly used antidepressants and guess what it is composed of? Yup…fluoride. Are you currently taking any antidepressants? Do you drink tap water? If so, this may be why you are no longer spiritual.

Damien Marie AtHope, Challenger, How is any of that evidence for your supernatural claims? There are some organofluorine drugs, however, that do metabolize into fluoride. Many modern pharmaceuticals (e.g. Prozac, Paxil) contain “organofluorines.” An organofluorine is a chemical compound that contains both carbon and fluorine. The fact, however, that a pharmaceutical is made with an organofluorine does not mean that it will increase your exposure to fluoride.  http://fluoridealert.org/issues/sources/pharmaceuticals/ We often face a hard task to inspire others to change a belief do to reason and evidence against it, when they never required reason and evidence to get the belief in the first place.

Challenger, Damien, do you know why you have a red beard? I have a theory… In the Bible, there was a man named Esau (who was red-haired). He sold his birthright for a bowl of soup. This man lost his divine position because of his desire for the flesh. Those who walk in the flesh are not interested in God’s purpose.

Damien Marie AtHope, Challenger, are you a person just pushing evidenceless dogma or epistemically rational? Are you a person just pushing evidenceless dogma or epistemically rational?  Being Epistemically Rational http://damienmarieathope.com/2016/08/23/being-epistemically-rational/ Where is your supporting evidence please?

Challenger, My claim is that I am a child of God. Deception is everywhere these days. Do you believe in prophecy? Perhaps that may peak your interest. There is a current battle going on with regards to the Jews’ right to worship on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. My suspicion is that the 3rd Temple will be rebuilt in the very near future. For 3 and 1/2 years, the Jews will be free to worship. Then, things will change suddenly at which point the great Tribulation will take place.

Damien Marie AtHope, Challenger, you keep offering blank evidence empty opinions, I just want to prove any of them? I have given you evidence upon evidence you keep talking options. its like me asking for food and you keep only giving me a restaurant menu. Now can you please give me valid and reliable reason and evidence supporting such a full belief proposition not more evidenceless options?

Challenger, I totally understand your frustration. I was ALWAYS scientific-minded and did not believe in the supernatural. But one day it clicked and everything made sense. I have repented of many past sins and God continues to bless me. All He wants is a relationship with His creation. But I do respect your opinion as well. I do not have any ill-will towards non-believers. In fact, if you ever wanted me to pray for you I would.

Damien Marie AtHope, Challenger, just as the concept of god has many definitions yet lack epistemic justification, If there is some “spiritual” anything prove it don’t talk about it. I am asking and upend to your evidence. Not only do I still need to hear your ontology for your god reality claim. I also want to hear a clear and evidence rich offering with valid and reliable reason one evidence full with adherence to epistemic rationality.

Challenger, Matthew 12:38-39 “Then some of the scribes and Pharisees said to Him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.” But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet.” It is not about signs, my friend, but about faith. BTW, of course, mankind has known about the pineal gland and it’s function for centuries. http://www.aruarian.com/the-eye-of-horus-pineal-gland/

Damien Marie AtHope, If Christians are so much about love, why are you so well represented by hate groups something us atheists don’t seem to favor much as there are many theistic or religionists connected hate groups of various kinds yet no even one atheist hate group in the bunch. I am not to saying atheist’s can’t unjustifiably hate. I am saying that we can produce the demonstrable really of the situation as there are no atheist hate groups. and this is not some empty provide nothing evidenceless claim of god, my claim for no atheist hate groups, can indeed be tied to evidentiary positive responding evidence in this case the obviously clear lack of evidence as the evidence it is not some directly connected issue atheistic beliefs hold. Southern Poverty Law Center has a list of Christian hate groups which I have added below:

*11th Hour Remnant Messenger

*Abundant Life Fellowship

*America’s Promise Ministries

*Christian Identity Church – Aryan Nations

*Church of the Sons of YHWH

*Covenant People’s Ministry

*Ecclesiastical Council for the Restoration of Covenant Israel

*Fellowship of God’s Covenant People

*First Baptist Church and Ministry

*First Century Christian Ministries

*Holy Order Ministry

*Identity Nation

*Kingdom Identity Ministries

*Kinsman Redeemer Ministries

*Knights of the Holy Identity

*Mission to Israel

*Non-Universal Teaching Ministries

*Our Place Fellowship

*Scriptures for America Ministries

*Shepherd’s Call Ministries

*The Church of Jesus Christ Christian / Aryan Nations

*The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord

*Thomas Robb Ministries

*United Identity Church of Christ

*Virginia Publishing Company

*Watchmen Bible Study Group

*Weisman Publications

*Yahweh’s Truth

*The Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ

*Abiding Truth Ministries

*American Family Association

*Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute

*Chalcedon Foundation

*Christ the King Church (Larkspur, Colorado)

*Faithful Word Baptist Church

*Family Research Council

*Mission: America

*Pilgrims Covenant Church

*Providence Road Baptist Church

*Sons of Thundr (Faith Baptist Church)

*The Pray in Jesus Name Project

*Tom Brown Ministries

*Traditional Values Coalition

*True Light Pentecost Church

*Truth In Action Ministries

*Westboro Baptist Church

*Windsor Hills Baptist Church

*World Congress of Families/Howard Center for Family, Religion and Society

*Bill Keller Ministries

*Christian Anti-Defamation Commission

*Christian Books and Things

*Dove World Outreach Center

*European-American Evangelistic Crusades

*Florida Family Association

*Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints

*National Prayer Network

*Official Street Preachers

*Power of Prophecy

*Reformation-Bible Puritan-Baptist Church

*Society for the Practical Establishment and Perpetuation of the Ten Commandments

*The Brother Nathanael Foundation

*The Church at Kaweah

*Tony Alamo Christian Ministries

*Truth At Last

*Truth Triumphant

*Ku Klux Klan

*Christian Defense League

*Alliance for Catholic Tradition

*Catholic Action Resource Center

*Catholic Counterpoint

*Catholic Family News/Catholic Family Ministries, Inc.

*Christ or Chaos

*Culture Wars/Fidelity Press

*The Fatima Crusader/International Fatima Rosary Crusade

*IHM Media

*IHS Press

*In the Spirit of Chartres Committee

*Most Holy Family Monastery

*OMNI Christian Book Club

*The Remnant/The Remnant Press

*Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary

*Michael’s Parish/Mount St. Michael

Challenger, But your love cannot give me eternal life. My God has promised me this gift. I believe we are all meant to live together in peace despite our beliefs (or lack thereof). I believe in the separation of church and state. I believe we are to help the needy. My concern is for the atheist as well. I believe you will be persecuted as much as I will be persecuted. Lucifer is the prince of this world and he hates mankind.

Damien Marie AtHope, I too can agree to a few of your beliefs but what I don’t understand is why you believe in an evidence devoid proposition like gods or the disproved bible? Stop Putting Faith in Faith http://damienmarieathope.com/2015/10/15/stop-putting-faith-in-faith/

Challenger, It is not something that we can earn. Salvation is given to us by faith. If it was something earned, then we could boast about ourselves. God is humble and meek. Damien, thanks for the opportunity to speak with you today. You are a good man.

Damien Marie AtHope, Challenger, God is humble and meek? what is humble and meek about the fire and brimstone murdering god of the bible the most antihuman being of pure nightmares if real as he would have the title of world murder. I could not despite such an immoral universal tyrant. God is a monster and I stop believing in monsters under my bed so to do I not believe nor have any reason to and all you can offer is nothing the nothing of faith. what is faith? When did you start faith and not just unfaithful belief? where else in your life do you use faith over facts? How impressed if the method of faith to confirm truth? And thanks for the opportunity to speak with you as well, I appreciate your willingness to think. 🙂