“Lol…Damien how you gonna attack Jainism a belief system like that outlaws possessions & money?…lmao” – Challenger

Damien Marie AtHope “yes, I attacked Jainism for its sexism, just like I would if they were racist.

“Damien , YOU cant grasp Jainism with a Western Mindset of God or deities…. it doesn’t have any ideological similarities to the 3 Abrahamic Cults…heirarchy is different then Westerners understand…its futile to repetitively compare to narrow minded Christianity…” – Challenger

Damien Marie AtHope “An apologist for Jainism still using the nonsense excuse, sad.”

Sexism in Jainism: http://damienmarieathope.com/2015/08/29/sexism-in-jainism/

The Problems with Jainism: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/03/the-problems-with-jainism/

The Problems with Jainism, written by someone raised as a Jain, as if that is even necessary, as Jainism is invalid all by itself as we all have more than one reality to discern facts of Jainism from different from any other religious non-reality nonsense outside this nor is any other religion.

According to a Guest Contributor to the Friendly Atheists blog highlights problems with Jainism:

“saying that while its “non-violence” aspect is admirable, Jains still believe in plenty of bullshit. Jains believe in a never-ending, cyclical time cycle, with phases of “rising” and “falling” happiness. Each phase lasts several thousands of years. This is all fiction, of course. Jains believe that they can accumulate and shed karma and this impacts their future lives (reincarnation). There’s no evidence of this. Jains support being free of materialism — not because it can be destructive in and of itself, but because it’ll allow you to more easily break free from the cycle of reincarnation. They’re doing a good thing for the wrong reason. Jains don’t believe in a god, per se, but they do believe in supernatural beings who have broken free of the reincarnation cycle to attain Nirvana. In fact, there are 24 beings who have done that… and we know their names. We memorized their names as children. Though there’s no evidence any of them ever “attained Nirvana.” Jainism encourages an 8-day-long (or worse), unhealthy fasting during the holy time of the year. During the fast, you may only consume water that’s been pre-boiled. The Jain rules regarding a vegetarian diet seem like they’re made up on the spot. Eggs are bad, but milk is ok. Potatoes and other food from the ground are bad, but there are exceptions depending on the day. Alcohol is forbidden, but young Jains go to bars all the time. The rules make hypocrisy rampant… but almost unavoidable. Demi-gods, nirvana, “next lifetime,” karma? Those beliefs sound like something out of Scientology. But Jains take them very seriously. The funny thing is that so many Jains go into scientific fields, and yet, I never hear Jains say this stuff is untrue. They find a way to compartmentalize it and ignore it. When you ask them what they believe, they’ll say “Non-violence”… but they won’t mention the several levels of Hell and multiple levels of Heaven. They’ll do research in a lab one day, and then sing a chant praising prophets, saints, and “liberated souls” the next, without ever realizing the two worlds ought to be colliding. (I sang that particular mantra every day growing up. Can you imagine how I felt when I finally figured out what it actually meant?) As far as religions go, Jainism isn’t the worst one you’ll find. But there are plenty of lies that it spreads that we need to call out. Young Jains should be concerned with the truth and they ought to know that the religious leaders in the temple are trying to lead them away from it — as most religious leaders everywhere do. The fact that even the most outspoken atheists put on kid gloves when dealing with it is upsetting. It’s always nice to see a religion that advocates kindness and respect, but that shouldn’t make it immune from criticism when it’s warranted. Jains are very bad at being self-critical, and it has plenty of beliefs that are untrue. I’d love to see a Jain organization, or blogger, or adherent offer up the evidence for their supernatural beliefs because I’m convinced there is none.” http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/03/the-problems-with-jainism/

Jainism is non-atheistic at all and sounds very polytheistic to me, as it has many deities some of the prominent ones are:

CHAKRESHWARE DEVI, AMBIKA DEVI, PADMAVATI DEVI, SARASWATI DEVI, LAKSHMI DEVI, MANIBHADRA DEV, GHANTAKARNA VEER, NAKODA BHAIRAVA, and BHOMIYAJI.

Moreover, I would like to address the prominent Jainism mythical beings/deities, yakshas and yakshanis:

“yakshas is the male form and the feminine form of the word is yaksi or Yakshini are together the names of a broad class of nature-spirits, usually benevolent, who are caretakers of the natural treasures hidden in the earth and tree roots. They appear in Hindu, Jain and Buddhist texts, as the yakṣa has a dual personality. On the one hand, a yaksa may be an inoffensive nature-fairy, associated with woods and mountains; but there is also a darker version of the yaksa, which is a kind of ghost (bhuta) that haunts the wilderness and waylays and devours travelers, similar to the raksasas. is a mythological being in Hindu mythology. As this mythology influenced other religions, the rakshasa was later incorporated into Buddhism. Rakshasas are also called ‘Maneaters’ (Nri-chakshas, Kravyads). A female rakshasa is known as a Rakshasi. A female Rakshasa in human form is a Manushya-Rakshasi. The terms Asura and Rakshasa are sometimes used interchangeably.” 1, 2

The Sanskrit word for “goddess”; the masculine form is Deva. Devi – the feminine form, and Deva – the masculine form, mean “heavenly, divine, anything of excellence”, and are also gender specific terms for a deity in Hinduism. Jains believe that these Yaksas and Yaksinis were appointed by Indra to look after the wellbeing of Tirthankaras. Therefore, they were always found around Jinas and that has reflected their presence in the Jain temples and also around the idols of the Jinas. They are found in a pair of a male (yaksha) and a female (yakshini). Yaksa usually found on the right side of the Jina idol while yaksini on the left side. In the earlier period, they were regarded mainly as the devotees of Jina but as the time passed by, people started to worship them too. In Jainism, a tirthankara is a savior and spiritual teacher of the dharma (righteous path). Tīrthaṅkara attains Kevala Jnana (omniscience) and founds Jainism. The first tirthankara was Rishabhanatha, the first Tirthankara (Teaching God) which according to Jain texts, is believed to have invented the castes (the oppressive unjust system of dividing society into hereditary classes) and was born in the age when there was happiness all around with no work for men to do. Practically all noteworthy features of the caste system among the Hindus found a place, to a more or less extent, in the caste system among the Jainas. To have a proper understanding of the Jaina caste system, we should know some important things about Jaina castes. Proverbially it is said that there are 84 castes in the Jaina community, representatives of different paces were considered as belonging to different castes and as the representatives came from 84 places these become 84 castes showing that several castes arose in the Jaina community in various parts of the country of India; castes like Osavala, Poravada, Humbada, Narasingpura and Nema are common to both the Digambaras (‘sky clad’ or naked) and the Shvetambaras (‘white clad’ or clothed) the two major schools of Jainism.  In Jainism and Buddhism, the Adi Purana text states “there is only one jati called manusyajati or the human caste, but divisions arise on account of their “different professions”. Jainism divides mankind into a caste system which is further divided into numerous sub-castes (Jatis). All sorts of beings belong to Jainism, but it does not mean that they are equal in their status. All Jivas are divided into four levels of existence; gods, human beings, animals and beings in hell. Each one of them has a number of classes which are precisely distinguished from one another, and the individual classes are further divided into subclasses. The uppermost three castes are called “twice-born” because their males experience a second, spiritual birth by a special consecration in which they are encircled by a holy thread (or, at least are supposed to be encircled). The castes of Brahmanas or the priests, Kshatriyas or the warriors and Vaishyas or the businessmen are the “twice-born”. Veneration of the 24 Jinas (claimed perfected-beings) is the most significant devotional focus in Jainism. The Bhagavata Puraṇa endorses the view that this claimed god was the founder of Jainism and evidence show that as far back as over 2,100 to 2,000 years ago there were people who were worshipping Ṛsabhadeva, the first tirthankara. 123456

Back to deities *not viewed as creator goddesses or gods* of prominence in Jainism:

*CHAKRESHWARE DEVI: She is the dedicated attendant deity of lord Adinath (Rishabhadev). She is also called by another name i.e. Apratichakra. The color of this goddess is golden. Her Vehicle is the eagle. She has eight arms. In her four right hands she holds the blessing mudra, arrow, rope and wheel. In her four left hands she holds the rein, the bow, the protective weapon of Indra and the wheel. Ref

*AMBIKA DEVI: She is the dedicated deity of Lord Neminath the 22nd Tirthankara. She is also called Ambai Amba and Amra Kushmandini. Her color is golden and the lion is her vehicle. She has four arms. In her two right hands she carries a mango and in the other a branch of a mango tree. In her one left hand she carries a rein and in the other she has her two sons. Ref

*PADMAVATI DEVI: She is the dedicated deity of Lord Parshvanath, the 23rd Tirthankara. Her color is golden and her vehicle is the snake with a cock’s head. She has four arms and her two right hands hold a lotus and a rosary. The two left hands hold a fruit and a rein. Ref

*SARASWATI DEVI: Saraswati, the goddess of knowledge, is considered to be the source of all the learning. This divine energy is the source of spiritual light, remover of all ignorance and promoter of all knowledge. She is respected and adored by all the faiths, worldly persons and saints. She has four arms, one holding a book, the other a rosary and two hands holding a musical instrument Veena. Her seat is a lotus and the peacock is her vehicle representing equanimity in prosperity. In some places it is mentioned that the swan is her vehicle. Ref

*LAKSHMI DEVI: Goddess Lakshmi represents the wealth. The people worship her as the goddess of wealth, power, money etc. In the upper two hands, she is holding a lotus with an elephant, in the lower right  hand a rosary and in the lower left hand a pot. Ref

*MANIBHADRA DEV: Shri Manibhadra is originally a yaksha, worshipped by Indian masses since very old times and his introduction to Jain worship is only a later adaptation. It is an image of six armed yaksha with an elephant as his vehicle. Ref

*GHANTAKARNA VEER: This deity is worshipped for the protection and for driving away the evil influence created by the lower types of negative energy. His arrow indicates penetration of evil forces. The bow gives forceful momentum to the arrow. His symbol is the bell that resounds to create auspicious sounds in the atmosphere. Sometimes the people who are not aware of the facts call him by mistake Ghantakarna Mahavira that creates confusion between Lord Mahavira and Ghantakarna Veer. He is not connected to Lord Mahävir in any way. Ref

*NAKODA BHAIRAVA: This is the tutelary deity of Bhairava. This deity is usually found near the entrance of the temple. People from far and near, visit the shrine and make offerings to the deity on fulfillment of their material desires. It is the positive force around the temple. Ref

*BHOMIYAJI: This deity is in the shape of a mountain. It is the natural positive energy of the mountain Sametshikharji. This energy inspires and guides the believers and the travelers. Ref

Other Jain deities

While the Jinas are the highest venerated members of the Jain pantheon, there are many other deities and subsidiary divinities portrayed in Jain art. These include gods and goddesses, guardian spirits and celestial beings who, it is assumed, came to be worshipped as a result of exchanges of ideas with Hinduism and Buddhism. All India’s early religions shared a common ancestry in the nature cults of the ancient Vedic period. Ref

“According to Jainism, gods can be categorized into Tīrthankaras, Arihants or ordinary Kevalins and Siddhas. Jainism considers the Devīs and Devas to be celestial beings who dwell in heavens owing to meritorious deeds in their past lives. Arihants, also known as Kevalins, are “Gods” (supreme souls) in embodied states who ultimately become Siddhas, or liberated souls, at the time of their nirvana. An Arihant is a soul who has destroyed all passions, is totally unattached and without any desire and hence has destroyed the four ghātiyā karmas and attain kevala Jñāna, or omniscience. Ultimately all Arihants and Tīrthankaras become Siddhas. A Siddha is a soul who is permanently liberated from the transmigratory cycle of birth and death. Such a soul, having realized its true self, is free from all the Karmas and embodiment. They are formless and dwell in Siddhashila (the realm of the liberated beings) at the apex of the universe in infinite bliss, infinite perception, infinite knowledge and infinite energy. Siddhahood is the ultimate goal of all souls. Jains pray to these passionless Gods not for any favours or rewards but rather pray to the qualities of the God with the objective of destroying the karmas and achieving the Godhood. This is best understood by the term – vandetadgunalabhdhaye i.e. we pray to the attributes of such Gods to acquire such attributes” Ref

 

 

gOD Believer, Pease Think Critically

If you are a believer think critically, it is not the one deity you see as possible without evidence but to notice how many gods or goddesses you reject as impossible without evidence. What kind of thinker can believe that rationally? There are literally thousands of religions being practiced today and many others once were once thought true in history just to be reworked or rejected.
 
Here are 20 of the most popular, along with an estimate of the number of followers: Christianity: 2.1 billion, Islam: 1.3 billion, Hinduism: 900 million, Chinese traditional religion: 394 million, Buddhism: 376 million, African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million, Sikhism: 23 million, Juche (a.k.a. Chuch’e and Kimilsungism): 19 million, Spiritism: 15 million, Judaism: 14 million, Baha’i: 7 million, Jainism: 4.2 million, Shinto: 4 million, Cao Dai: 4 million, Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million, Tenrikyo: 2 million, Neo-Paganism: 1 million, Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand, Rastafarianism: 600 thousand, Scientology: 500 thousand, [Source: Encyclopedia Britannica]
 
If you can believe only in a possible God of Christianity, you have chosen to reject Allah, Vishnu, Lord Buddha, Waheguru, Ngame, Isis, Kali, Brigid, Kuan Yin, Europa, Aphrodite, Amaterasu, Aurora, Chicomecoatl, Ishtar, Antares, and all of the thousands of other gods or goddess that other people worship today or once held faith in. It is quite likely that you rejected these other gods or goddesses without ever looking into their history, religions, reading or even learning about them. You may not even know some of the names listed or have heard much about them or the thousands of other deities and mythical beings people now or through time have put faith in. Most people believer or agnostic are singly indoctrinated all their life and simply have absorbed the dominant faith in your home or in the society you grew up in, thus you now see only it as the only possible truth.
 
In the same way, the followers of all these other religions have chosen to reject god or goddesses without reading or even learning about them as well and as many believers put faith over science facts. If you are a believer or agnostic only your possibility is true and you think their gods are imaginary, similarly they think your god or goddess is imaginary. In other words, each religious person on earth today arbitrarily rejects thousands of gods or goddesses as imaginary.
 
A rational person armed with history, science, psychology, sociology, biology, and archeology rejects all human gods or goddess myths equally, because all of them are equally human inventions. How do we know that they are human inventions?
 
Show me a claimed god that is not limited to having to be promoted by people, only transferred by people who were told about this brand of god or it stays unknown or stops being known when it stops being talked about.
 
Sounds like these claimed all powerful gods are not any power at all, instead they are universally limited and as fragile as any lie, you know just stop telling a God lie it stops existing.
 
These god myths like all myths not only must be told and retold by humans to other humans they suffer another weakness all myths share in that they tend to be changed or altered as they are retold. Some say not my god (let’s say Christians) but this is pure delusion and undeserved self-confidence as the over 40,000 sects and denominations as well as the many difference translations of one book the bible which easily has over 100 versions in english alone. And even using the same translation people differ how they view or believe the myth of the bible god, you can see why now right because it is only a myth that is limited to being believed and being told.
 
Still not convinced all gods are lies even the one god myth you may like or believe you choose or chose “more likely where raised in and forced to believe” then stop telling people about it and see if it keeps going as always gods have no more power than the believer gives them. God myths are week and fragile simply stop believing in them and stop talking about them and they stop existing.
 
Just think what claimed god if real requires you to talk about it or it stops being known. What real features of the world stop existing just because we stop talking about them or stop believing in them? Simply imagine that one of these god myths was actually real it would automatically be real not limited to being expressed to stay seen as real.
 
We know that all gods are myths as if one of these thousands of mythic gods were actually real, then its believers would be experiencing real, undeniable benefits. These undeniable benefits would not only be obvious to everyone they could be testable and demonstrable limited only to some the believers in the one claimed real god. But spoiler alert no such evidence exists, not that its a real shocker as all gods are myths.
 
That right there is no special anything followers of a claimed one true god have others don’t have but an odd belief in a God myth as true when there is no proof of such claims not even in the lives of the ones doing the claiming.
 
Because if some myth god was real couldn’t we at least see actual proof in the lives of the ones believing that only occurred in the lives of the believers and was testable and demonstrable like have fewer diseases, or more so called blessings like more money, etc. In fact is belief in a god meant anything at all there would be and I say must be, testable and demonstrable proofs directly connected to or special attributions only surrounding the lives followers of some claimed true god or its just not anything true.
 
I know if you are a believer in some claimed god you may defensibly say well even if there is not any testable or demonstrable proofs you still should believe as you don’t want to go to hell if you are wrong, to which we all should say and that works for you? As in what a bunch of nonsense and simple reasoning supported only by fear. Stop this unjustified fear and live life free.