“Damien, how could a religion be a lie is it because it’s not true? With my definition of a lie there must be agency. A lie is the intent to deceive. How would you go about defining a lie in the religious context? I hope you don’t mind my questions I enjoy learning about others position as I know mine is not perfect I may adopt something from yours.” – Questioner 

Types of religion lying?

  • ”Bad faith” lies, eroding the acknowledgement of one’s own ability to act and determine one’s possibilities self-efficiency and self-mastery instead requires reliance on the religion, god, holy person/pastor/priest or holy book/some other believed sacred thing. 1
  • ”Bald-faced” lies, lie such as talking donkeys in the bible (Numbers 22:28-30) or flying horses (Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:58:227 an Islamic holy book) are lies that are obviously a lies. 1
  • “Big lie” lies, a lie which attempts to trick the victim into believing something major which will likely be contradicted by some information the victim already possesses, or by their common sense. Say for instance the promotion of magic as real. Some religions claim that praying for somebody who is sick can have positive effects on the health of the person being prayed for. Magic is not real, never was, so to keep professing magic as a real thing to the contrary of reality, such as the nonsense belief of prayer even after it was tested and of course it failed (STEP study 2006) but the vigorous support of prayer not lessened at all, so it is promoting a “Big lie.” 1 2
  • “Bluffing” lies, to pretend to have a capability or intention one does not actually possess. Such as, holy books saying people had revelations from another world/super magic invisible evidenceless being(s), faith is evidence of existence of things, faith healing to name a few. 1
  • “Bullshit” lies, while a lie is related by a speaker who believes what is said is false, bullshit is offered by a speaker who does not care whether what is said is true because the speaker is more concerned with giving the hearer some impression. Thus, religious bullshit may be either true or false, but demonstrates a lack of concern for the truth which is likely to lead to falsehoods. Let us look how faith plays out in the three stooges: the bhagavad-gita, bible and quran. The bhagavad-gita and faith: bhagavad-gita 1.18-22, promotes faith without understanding. bhagavad-gita 2.41, promotes faith as steadfast trust. bhagavad-gita, 4.39, promotes faith knowledge without human knowledge. bhagavad-gita 6.23 promotes that faith allows knowledge. bhagavad-gita 6.37, promotes lack of faith is reality focused. And bhagavad-gita 17.2-3, promotes position of faith makes position in life. The bible and faith: Proverbs 1:7, promotes fear of god as the way to faith knowledge. Proverbs 3:5 promotes faith without understanding. Romans 10:10, promotes faith as justification. 1 Corinthians 2:5, promotes faith without human reason. 2 Corinthians 5:7, promotes faith without proof. And Hebrews 11:1, promotes faith as substance and evidence even if lacking both in reality. The quran and faith: quran 48:4, promotes feelings as adding faith to faith. quran 9:87, promotes that without faith there is no proof. quran 58:22, promotes feelings of god as the way to faith. quran 16:22, promote trust in self as the reason faith is lacking. quran 2:108, promotes losing faith as not understanding by faith. And quran 3:160, promotes trusting faith whether good or bad happens. 1
  • ”Contextual lie” lies,  such as how one can state part of the truth out of context, knowing that without complete information, it gives a false impression. Likewise, one can actually state accurate facts, yet deceive with them. Religions are fond of lies by truth out of context with claims are intellectually dishonest; using figurative instead of literal quotes or misinterpret so it fits their persuasion, why there are so many different versions/sects even in a given religion. 1
  • ”Cover-up” lies,  such as how one may deny a lie made on a previous occasion, or one may alternatively claim that a previous lie was not as egregious as it actually was. Like, how even though Creationism is a debunked religious conspiracy theory just like its child, intelligent design religious people still boldly promote this lie, no instead they teach that evolution is the lie. Since 1968, however, U.S. courts have consistently held that “creationism” is a particular religious viewpoint and that teaching it in public schools would violate the First Amendment of the Constitution. Intelligent Design and the Law: The United States Supreme Court rejected this claim and found the creation science legislation to be unconstitutional. Applying the Lemon test (a legal test derived from the foundational case of Lemon v. Kurtzman), the Court focused on whether the challenged government action serves a secular purpose, or a religious one. The legislation’s proponents had maintained that its purpose was to promote academic freedom. The Court did not accept this view. It found that the statute’s true purpose was to use the coercive powers of the state to promote religious ends. As such, it was unconstitutional. The Court based its conclusion on the fact that the legislation had chosen to focus on the one scientific theory – evolution – that certain religious groups find most disturbing. It also looked to the religious motivations expressed by the statute’s sponsors. Were an intelligent design requirement challenged on constitutional grounds, a court would likely follow a very similar analysis and reach the same conclusion. Intelligent design theory is in many respects similar to creation science; including the shared belief in complex life forms at origin and the intervention of some type of intelligent actor. Moreover, just like the Louisiana statute at issue in Edwards, the intelligent design movement focuses its challenge on the one scientific theory that most conflicts with the views of certain religious groups, while ignoring far more significant scientific controversies. If the movement’s real intent were to improve the teaching of scientific controversies, then evolution, one of the most settled of scientific theories, would be an odd place to begin. In Edwards, the Supreme Court found such a limited focus to be highly suggestive of the proponents’ religious purposes and, therefore, of the requirement’s unconstitutionality. Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District, Tammy Kitzmiller, et al. v. Dover Area School District, et al. (400 F. Supp. 2d 707, Docket No. 4cv2688) was the first direct challenge brought in the United States federal courts testing a public school district policy that required the teaching of intelligent design. On December 20, 2005, Jones issued his 139-page findings of fact and decision ruling that the Dover mandate requiring the statement to be read in class was unconstitutional. The ruling concluded that intelligent design is not science, and permanently barred the board from “maintaining the ID Policy in any school within the Dover Area School District, from requiring teachers to denigrate or disparage the scientific theory of evolution, and from requiring teachers to refer to a religious, alternative theory known as ID.” 1 2 3
  • “Deception” lies, such as the act of propagating beliefs in things that are not true, or not the whole truth (as in half-truths or lying by omission). Deception can involve dissimulation, propaganda, and sleight of hand, as well as distraction, camouflage, or concealment. There is also self-deception, as in bad faith. 1
  • “Defamation”  lies, such as the communication of a false statement that harms the reputation of an individual person, business, product, group, government, religion, or nation. Other various kinds of defamation retaliate against groundless criticism. Defamation of nonbelievers is a big favorite of religions from Hinduism “The ignorant, the faithless, the doubting-self goes to destruction; there is neither this world, nor the other, nor happiness for the doubter” – Bhagavadgita 4.40, to the bible warning against unbelievers saying that should shunned and nether marry nor be friends with them. – 2 Corinthians 6:14-17 and that they should be killed – Deuteronomy 13:6-10, to the Quran “Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).” – Quran 9:123 1