Archaeology Challenge?
“Damien, there is a need to dig a Little Deeper than the culture in Turkey because technically Iraq civilization goes back further than turkey’s. But Australia’s culture is almost three times older dating back over 30,000 years. It is true that göbeklitepe is the oldest in the region but it is by far not the oldest civilization on the planet.” Challenger
Thanks for your response and I have been digging deeper for like three to four years. So, here is what I have found in response to your statements, Australia aborigines never truly left the stone age until colonization so no they did not have any advance culture like that of turkey and no Iraq civilization is not older at all. There is evidence of a single “Out of Africa” migration event around 72,000 years ago and of population spread which provided a basis for the modern Aboriginal cultural landscape dating back about 50,000 years. Interesting enough a stone snake monument from South Africa provides evidence of the “first human worship” 70,000 years ago. And while Iraq is technically at the originations of religious statism around 5,000 years ago even Egypt is a seemingly a little older 5,150 years ago in that endeavor but it is possible that Egypt too, has ancient connections to Turkey as well. So, sorry but not Iraq civilization could be connected as Sumerian loanwords seem to originate in or connect in some way with turkey which was the origination of farming starts then from there spread out to other parts of the world including Europe’s first farmers who came from Turkey around 8,000 years ago. Where Eridu in Iraq considered the earliest city in southern Mesopotamia was founded around 7,400 years ago but it is thought that around 8,000 years ago Sumerians utilize and further develop agriculture in Southern Iraq, but around 11,000 years ago agriculture as a standard solidifies. There are two early points out side of Turkey thought to be at the forefront of early agriculture populations from the southern Levant region, including Israel and Jordan, and those living across the Zagros Mountains in western Iran independently developed farming. However, the two populations of farmers may have mixed in eastern Turkey while seeking out sources of obsidian, which was useful for making tools. By the time farmers in present-day Turkey began migrating to Europe, they carried a ‘Neolithic toolkit’ that included crops, animals and tools from both farming traditions. Ritual may take many forms such as intoxication which does produce an altered state. Along this line of thinking there is the two stone vessels at Kortik Tepe 12,400 – 11,700 Years Ago from southeastern Turkey seems to demonstrate alcohol production similar the finding of six large trough-shaped stone vessels hint at fermenting of grain from Gobekli Tepe in southeastern Turkey. Turkey interestingly enough is home to both wild wheat and the first cultivated wheat 11,000 years ago originating from the Karacadag mountains in southeast Turkey, not too far from several archeological sites in Turkey with wheat, Cafer Hoyuk around 9600 to 8,200 years ago, Cayonu around 9,500 to 8,700 years ago, and Nevali Cori around 9,200 years ago. The Karacadag mountains with the earliest domestication of grain is near to Göbekli Tepe, possibly linking alcohol fermentation, religion and wheat domestication as use and consumption may have been involved in cultic/shamanistic feast celebrations. It seems wild wheat was still gathered but not yet cultivated at Hallan Cemi and Demirkoy and Gobekli Tepe. Wheat, which we may currently take for granted was once highly sacralized even somewhat supernaturally deified. Though odd to present thinkers such cultic/shamanistic connection to wheat seems to have held some kind of sacred or ritualistic significance or was used (possibly fermented) practices in how deities related to fertility usually involve wheat like Tammuz, Kybele, Kubaba, Ceres, and Demeter. Tammuz (Turkish “Temmuz”) a Babylonian deity derived from Dumuzid (Sumerian: Zi(d), “faithful, true”) is similar to central Turkey’s people the Hittites whose word for wheat was “Ziz” with cultural connections to a current local Turkish name of wheat, siyez first utilized around 10,000 years ago. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
By Damien Marie AtHope