Facebook page: Atheist for Non-monogamy
Atheist for Non-monogamy Facebook group
(I am now banned from Facebook so I don’t know the status of the facebook stuff)
I like polyamory or for me, it’s “Ethical non-monogamy” as I don’t always have to love or have romantic feelings to engage sexually. I am totally open about my open marriage. I have been non-monogamous in my marriage for almost 10 years, it’s not a one-type thing for me it evolves like most relationships it grows and develops it’s a dynamic persuasion. I think society is also evolving to accept even kind of beginning to support if. But as far as I know, it has not gained legal protections but it should just like any marriage or legal union; as people own their own bodies and should always have rights to what they do with it or not.
“Damien, you need to understand, one can be polyamorous and involved in multiple romantic relationships and still cheat on your partners, even if they are themselves polyamorous. Therefore calling it ethical non-monogamy is just ridiculous, to me, polyamory is not linked to ethics…” – Challenger
My response, Wrong, ethical monogamy is when one is not cheating and ethical non-monogamy is when one is not cheating. Being ethical is directly relational to one’s behaviors not being dishonestly characterized by lack of trustworthiness being deceptive. Which are unethical behaviors? Personal ethics might also be called morality, since they reflect general expectations of any person in any society, acting in any capacity.
Principles of Personal Ethics include:
- 1. Concern for the well-being of others
- 2. Respect for the autonomy of others
- 3. Trustworthiness & honesty
- 4. Willing compliance with the law (with the exception of civil disobedience)
- 5. Basic justice; being fair
- 6. Refusing to take unfair advantage
- 7. Benevolence: doing good
- 8. Preventing harm
For more on this: http://ethics.ubc.ca/papers/invited/colero-html/
“Damien, are “Swinging” and “polyamory” different or are they relatively the same thing?” – Challenger
My response, To me, most swingers see sex with others as a recreational event like going to a theme park they visit have a blast but don’t stay they but do leave with fond memories. Polyamory as a less than just some sexual thrill then a love orientation. Polyamory way will involve sex but is never limited to sexual. Polyamory is about relationships, honesty, and intimacy.
“Damien, are “open marriage” and “polyamory” separate or sometimes overlapping terms?” – Challenger
My response, Well, “open marriage” is part of an “Ethical non-monogamy” but not necessarily poly or swinging; but it could include either or a little of both as it is kind of with me. Open marriage only tells you that the person has a marriage or committed relationship in which both partners agree that one or each may have sexual or romantic relations with others.
“Damien, do you consider polyamory as a “sexual orientation” or a “relationship orientation”?” – Challenger
My response, I consider it manly a relationship orientation but I can not deny it may have a possible sexual orientation component as I first was Poly when I was 15 years old and several relations after that but as I did not become an atheist until 36 I had shame as a believer and tried to stop what felt natural as I saw it as a sin. Now I see it as just natural. For more on this: http://www.amazon.com/The-Myth-Monogamy-Fidelity-Infidelity/dp/0805071369
“Damien, is everyone really non-monogamous?” – Challenger
My response, I personally don’t think humans (everyone) are all of most things. I think it may be a general rule that most people are some variation of non-monogamous as we are primates closest to the bonobo chimpanzee.
Here are 7 Things Bonobos Can Teach Us About Love and Sex:
- More sex = less conflict.
- Feminism can be very sexy.
- Sisterhood is powerful.
- Jealousy isn’t romantic.
- There’s promise in promiscuity.
- Good sex needn’t always include an orgasm, and “casual” doesn’t necessarily mean “empty” or “cheap.”
- Sex and food go together better than love and marriage—at least for bonobos. All the casual sex among bonobos is arguably a big part of what has made them among the smartest of all primates.
For more on this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201202/7-things-bonobos-can-teach-us-about-love-and-sex
Atheist for Non-monogamy is a Facebook page of mine check it out: https://www.facebook.com/AtheistforNonmonogamy/?notif_t=page_fan
Atheist for Non-monogamy is also a Facebook group of mine check it out: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Atheist.for.Non.monogamy/
All this talk about sex and relationships may make you want to think more on love, what is love? Is it explainable even if explained: https://damienmarieathope.com/2015/08/23/what-is-love-is-it-explainable-even-if-explained/
Here is more on Lovestyle or Lifestyle Options: https://damienmarieathope.com/2015/09/04/lovestyle-or-lifestyle-options/
Well now that you are in a more heightened mood, here are some of my Erotic Poems and Short Writing on Love: https://damienmarieathope.com/2015/09/10/erotic-poems-and-short-writing-on-love/
Lovestyle or Lifestyle Options
Liberty, Liking/Love, Jealousy, Respect and Loyal in Poly or Non-Monogamy?
The Bio of Damien Marie AtHope
Compare and Contrast (religious and non-religious)
Self-ownership: Abortion, Genital Mutilation, Prostitution, Drugs, and the Right to Die
The Need for Consent and the value of Body Ownership: Healthy Sex Talk with Kids
So what about me?
“My Open relationship Info”
I (Damien Marie AtHope) am the male-half (I am actually intersex-genderqueer but present as male) of a couple in a diad nested ethical nonmonogamy marriage. I am free to engage with Cis-women on my own (with my wife knowing) as well as if things work out with me, my wife (Cis-woman who is genderqueer but present as female) may, if everyone is interested to be open to a threesome or two, my wife may join me with Cis-women.
Atheist in an Open Marriage Attends a Solo Polyamory Conference
The Personal Bio of Damien Marie AtHope
The Professional Bio of Damien Marie AtHope
My personality is ENTJ-A (ENTJ Personality Type – “Chief” Profile):
Extraverted (E), Intuitive (N), Thinking (T) and Judging (J) – A (assertive)
While ENTJs 16personalities.com takes this typing a step further with a hyphenated suffix at the end of the 4-letter code, either the letter A (assertive) or T (turbulent). Guess which one this ENTJ got? A, of course. ENTJ-A.
I am a positive kind person and work to improve myself and others if I can. As I have schooling in psychology as well as I am an atheist/humanist writer. I am currently about to publish an atheist book called: “The Tree Of Lies and Its Hidden Roots, exposing the evolution of religion and removing the rationale of faith.” My wife does not play or date on her own but I have had flings and dated women on my own. As well as we have had threesome occasionally with women. This lifestyle is not new to us and we have had an open relationship for many years now. I am easy going with people and enjoy have fun and play well with others but remember it will almost always be about me, even if there is a threesome with my wife. The main interaction will be with me as my wife is not as into playing with others like I am. I am a nonbeliever (out atheist) so if religion is a big deal for you that may cause conflict. I do not care what you believe as long as you respect how I don’t believe. I am a caring firebrand atheist as well as antireligionist.
My wife supports me getting my needs filled and will always be aware of what is going on, she is a part of me.
I like all races of women, am into different sizes from thick to arrange, and styles from casual or conservative to Goth. I tend to like equalitarian or me as more of the dominant. I never would be into being dominated. This lifestyle is not new to us we have had an open relationship for many years now. I am a nonbeliever so if religion is a big deal for you that may cause conflict. We do not care what you believe as long as you respect how I believe. My wife Shayna knows and supports me getting my sexual and love needs to be filled externally to my wife and Shayna will always be aware of what is going on, she is a part of me. Shayna is bisexual, more laid back than sensitive but fun to be around and she follows my lead in all we do. For the Love of Value… I wish to be a person of value and live a value-driven life!
I see my gender as Intersex -Male who is mentally Genderqueer or I am an intersex person who is genderqueer but presents as male using the pronoun “He” but I am best understood as Two gendered or Two spirited or have dual male and female persuasions and am sexually and romantically Interested in Women (I am in an open marriage). Moreover, I am heterosexual, not gay or bisexual. You could say I am a Gynesexual which means one has a sexual attraction to breasts, vaginas, and femininity. But the person who has those features does not necessarily need to be a female. Yet for me personally, I am only into Cisgender women. However, I am very supportive of all genders and sexualities (between consenting adults). Why is this so hard for some people?
I am a high thinking primate, just trying to live an honorable life, being of service to others, and I wish as a life’s mission to be a kindness aficionado. And, I like to contemplate humans, humanity, and human flourishing. I like to say, Be thoughtful in what you say, because, words once released have power, due to them being a method of transferring feelings not just ideas. Words are world builders and dramatic destructors. They can build mental castles to protect or dungeons to torment. May I strive to be kind to others with my words. And, I think back on my life, it’s not the times I was the most selfish but the times I was kind, that brighten my life. May I now make an even stronger effort to do so in all I do, as it’s so valuable to an enriched wellbeing in life.
Damien Marie AtHope: Axiological Atheist, Anti-theist, Anti-religionist, Secular Humanist. Rationalist, Writer, Artist, Poet, Philosopher, Advocate, Activist, with schooling in Psychology (Bachelors of Arts Psychology from Ashford University) and Sociology as well as an Autodidact in Science, Archeology, Anthropology, and Philosophy. Damien Promotes Science, Realism, Axiology, Liberty, Justice, Ethics, Anarchism, Socialism, Progressivism, Liberalism, Philosophy, Psychology, Archaeology, and Anthropology; advocating for Sexual, Gender, Child, Secular, LGBTQIA+, Race, Class Rights, and Equality.
I am virtuous to the vulnerable and champion justice, so valiantly, as I have experienced the hateful lash of unkindness and wish to champion its opposite, radical kindness in an unkind world, a sigh of true bravery. It seems that there are two main types of philosophers: Thinkers and Specialists, and I have always thought of myself as a thinker. May the actions of my life be written deep with the poetry of my humanity. Some people fight for people and some seem to just like to fight with people. We are our best when we are showing thoughtful regard, not thoughtless indifference. I say, be Virtuous to the Vulnerable and a Terror to Tyrants. Yes, be an Honorable Human.
I am an activist and teaching in public is part of that endeavor. I wish to be “Servant Leader,” it really resonated with me and is a similar desire I have as a leader hoping to add other leaders and to be a student as well wanting to be a life learner open to expand and learn as well as put forth efforts to teach. I dig good people who are kind and want to help others, like me; together we will aid in building a flourishing humanity, we rise by helping each other. I like that kind of people as contacts they are helping make the world better as I try to do.
I create art, memes, quotes, writings, blogs, Facebook pages & groups, Youtube videos, and Public speaking events and/or activism events. Also, I create video chats with Intelligent/thoughtful people who are kind and are doing good things in the world as well as video chats with atheists or nontheists of course; to share ideas, debate/dialog, or for empowerment. And I create videos with theists or agnostics to share ideas, debate/dialog, or provide a place for learning/teaching.
Damien Marie AtHope, is an Atheist, Antitheist, Antireligionist, Humanist, Writer, Artist, Poet, Philosopher & Activist.
I strive to be a good human ethical in both my thinking and behaviors thus I strive to be:
Anti-racist, Anti-sexist, Anti-homophobic, Anti-biphobic. Anti-transphobic, Anti-classist, Anti-ablest, Anti-ageist, and as Always Antifascist
In fact, I want to strive to avoid as much as I can bigoted thinking towards others based on their perceived membership or classification based on that person’s perceived political affiliation (Well: within reason, justice, and ethics), sex/gender, beliefs (Well: within reason, justice, and ethics), social class (Well: within reason, justice, and ethics), age, disability, religion (Well: within reason, justice, and ethics), sexuality (Well: within reason, justice, and ethics), race, ethnicity, language (Well: within reason, justice, and ethics), nationality, beauty, height, occupation (Well: within reason, justice, and ethics), wealth (Well: within reason, justice, and ethics), education, sport-team affiliation, music tastes or other personal characteristics (Well: within reason, justice, and ethics).
Although, I am a “very”, yes, VERY strong atheist, antitheist as well as antireligionist, My humanity is just as strong and I value it above my disbeliefs. My kind of people are those who champion humanity, the one’s who value kindness, love justice, and support universal empowerment for all humans, we are all equal in dignity, and all deserve human rights, due self-sovereignty.
“Theists, there has to be a god, as something can not come from nothing.”
Well, thus something (unknown) happened and then there was something. This does not tell us what the something that may have been involved with something coming from nothing. A supposed first cause, thus something (unknown) happened and then there was something is not an open invitation to claim it as known, neither is it justified to call or label such an unknown as anything, especially an unsubstantiated magical thinking belief born of mythology and religious storytelling.
While hallucinogens are associated with shamanism, it is alcohol that is associated with paganism.
The Atheist-Humanist-Leftist Revolutionaries Shows in the prehistory series:
Show two: Pre-animism 300,000 years old and animism 100,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”
Show tree: Totemism 50,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”
Show four: Shamanism 30,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”
Show five: Paganism 12,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”
Show six: Emergence of hierarchy, sexism, slavery, and the new male god dominance: Paganism 7,000-5,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Capitalism) (World War 0) Elite and their slaves!
Prehistory: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” the division of labor, power, rights, and recourses: VIDEO
Pre-animism 300,000 years old and animism 100,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”: VIDEO
Totemism 50,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”: VIDEO
Shamanism 30,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”: VIDEO
Paganism 12,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Pre-Capitalism): VIDEO
Paganism 7,000-5,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Capitalism) (World War 0) Elite and their slaves: VIEDO
Paganism 5,000 years old: progressed organized religion and the state: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Kings and the Rise of the State): VIEDO
Paganism 4,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (First Moralistic gods, then the Origin time of Monotheism): VIEDO
I do not hate simply because I challenge and expose myths or lies any more than others being thought of as loving simply because of the protection and hiding from challenge their favored myths or lies.
The truth is best championed in the sunlight of challenge.
An archaeologist once said to me “Damien religion and culture are very different”
My response, So are you saying that was always that way, such as would you say Native Americans’ cultures are separate from their religions? And do you think it always was the way you believe?
I had said that religion was a cultural product. That is still how I see it and there are other archaeologists that think close to me as well. Gods too are the myths of cultures that did not understand science or the world around them, seeing magic/supernatural everywhere.
I personally think there is a goddess and not enough evidence to support a male god at Çatalhöyük but if there was both a male and female god and goddess then I know the kind of gods they were like Proto-Indo-European mythology.
This series idea was addressed in, Anarchist Teaching as Free Public Education or Free Education in the Public: VIDEO
Our 12 video series: Organized Oppression: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of power (9,000-4,000 years ago), is adapted from: The Complete and Concise History of the Sumerians and Early Bronze Age Mesopotamia (7000-2000 BC): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szFjxmY7jQA by “History with Cy“
Show #1: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (Samarra, Halaf, Ubaid)
Show #2: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power
Show #3: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (Uruk and the First Cities)
Show #4: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (First Kings)
Show #5: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (Early Dynastic Period)
Show #6: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power
Show #7: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (Sargon and Akkadian Rule)
Show #9: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (Gudea of Lagash and Utu-hegal)
Show #12: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (Aftermath and Legacy of Sumer)
The “Atheist-Humanist-Leftist Revolutionaries”
Cory Johnston ☭ Ⓐ Atheist Leftist @Skepticallefty & I (Damien Marie AtHope) @AthopeMarie (my YouTube & related blog) are working jointly in atheist, antitheist, antireligionist, antifascist, anarchist, socialist, and humanist endeavors in our videos together, generally, every other Saturday.
Why Does Power Bring Responsibility?
Think, how often is it the powerless that start wars, oppress others, or commit genocide? So, I guess the question is to us all, to ask, how can power not carry responsibility in a humanity concept? I know I see the deep ethical responsibility that if there is power their must be a humanistic responsibility of ethical and empathic stewardship of that power. Will I be brave enough to be kind? Will I possess enough courage to be compassionate? Will my valor reach its height of empathy? I as everyone, earns our justified respect by our actions, that are good, ethical, just, protecting, and kind. Do I have enough self-respect to put my love for humanity’s flushing, over being brought down by some of its bad actors? May we all be the ones doing good actions in the world, to help human flourishing.
I create the world I want to live in, striving for flourishing. Which is not a place but a positive potential involvement and promotion; a life of humanist goal precision. To master oneself, also means mastering positive prosocial behaviors needed for human flourishing. I may have lost a god myth as an atheist, but I am happy to tell you, my friend, it is exactly because of that, leaving the mental terrorizer, god belief, that I truly regained my connected ethical as well as kind humanity.
Cory and I will talk about prehistory and theism, addressing the relevance to atheism, anarchism, and socialism.
At the same time as the rise of the male god, 7,000 years ago, there was also the very time there was the rise of violence, war, and clans to kingdoms, then empires, then states. It is all connected back to 7,000 years ago, and it moved across the world.
Cory Johnston: https://damienmarieathope.com/2021/04/cory-johnston-mind-of-a-skeptical-leftist/?v=32aec8db952d
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Damien Marie AtHope (“At Hope”) Axiological Atheist, Anti-theist, Anti-religionist, Secular Humanist. Rationalist, Writer, Artist, Poet, Philosopher, Advocate, Activist, Psychology, and Armchair Archaeology/Anthropology/Historian.
Damien is interested in: Freedom, Liberty, Justice, Equality, Ethics, Humanism, Science, Atheism, Antiteism, Antireligionism, Ignosticism, Left-Libertarianism, Anarchism, Socialism, Mutualism, Axiology, Metaphysics, LGBTQI, Philosophy, Advocacy, Activism, Mental Health, Psychology, Archaeology, Social Work, Sexual Rights, Marriage Rights, Woman’s Rights, Gender Rights, Child Rights, Secular Rights, Race Equality, Ageism/Disability Equality, Etc. And a far-leftist, “Anarcho-Humanist.”
I am not a good fit in the atheist movement that is mostly pro-capitalist, I am anti-capitalist. Mostly pro-skeptic, I am a rationalist not valuing skepticism. Mostly pro-agnostic, I am anti-agnostic. Mostly limited to anti-Abrahamic religions, I am an anti-religionist.
To me, the “male god” seems to have either emerged or become prominent around 7,000 years ago, whereas the now favored monotheism “male god” is more like 4,000 years ago or so. To me, the “female goddess” seems to have either emerged or become prominent around 11,000-10,000 years ago or so, losing the majority of its once prominence around 2,000 years ago due largely to the now favored monotheism “male god” that grow in prominence after 4,000 years ago or so.
My Thought on the Evolution of Gods?
Animal protector deities from old totems/spirit animal beliefs come first to me, 13,000/12,000 years ago, then women as deities 11,000/10,000 years ago, then male gods around 7,000/8,000 years ago. Moralistic gods around 5,000/4,000 years ago, and monotheistic gods around 4,000/3,000 years ago.
To me, animal gods were likely first related to totemism animals around 13,000 to 12,000 years ago or older. Female as goddesses was next to me, 11,000 to 10,000 years ago or so with the emergence of agriculture. Then male gods come about 8,000 to 7,000 years ago with clan wars. Many monotheism-themed religions started in henotheism, emerging out of polytheism/paganism.
Damien Marie AtHope (Said as “At” “Hope”)/(Autodidact Polymath but not good at math):
Axiological Atheist, Anti-theist, Anti-religionist, Secular Humanist, Rationalist, Writer, Artist, Jeweler, Poet, “autodidact” Philosopher, schooled in Psychology, and “autodidact” Armchair Archaeology/Anthropology/Pre-Historian (Knowledgeable in the range of: 1 million to 5,000/4,000 years ago). I am an anarchist socialist politically. Reasons for or Types of Atheism
My Website, My Blog, & Short-writing or Quotes, My YouTube, Twitter: @AthopeMarie, and My Email: damien.marie.athope@gmail.com