My response, Could they also be seen as a conspiracy theory?
Jeff Knox @mrjeffknox, UFO historian and archivist with 30yrs studying the phenomena, “Conspiracy Theory is certainly rampant in UFOs, as well as just general conspiracism. It’s an integral part of the entire mythos. Much of UFOs are Conspiracy Theories. Not all, but a lot of the more popular stuff.”
Spooky South @spookysouthcoll, “The science is what we’re all hoping will be earnestly applied to the U in UFO, and released to the public. There’s something going in and out of our oceans and atmosphere at will, even if it’s an unexplained atmospheric phenomenon, we need science to help us answer those questions.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, What’s needed is diplomacy, not science. Look to folklore, religion, and psychology. And look what happened to the science of angels and ghosts. It doesn’t exist.
That UFO Podcast @ufouapam, Many things once considered magic or “hogwash” but the top thinkers of their time turned out to be science.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, Much, much more of what has been initially identified as hogwash has turned out to be hogwash.
John Havlasek @John_Havlasek, Sorry but UFOs are science. UFOS have nothing to do with religion and folklore. UFOS are unknown flying objects and that is that. We are not the only intelligent life forms and never were and never be as nature is infinite. I have seen personally UFOS and got it on camera. I share today.
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, “UFOS are unknown flying objects and that is that.” That is a statement of religious belief.
Trent Brace @TrentBrace, To be fair, disregarding unknown phenomena is not particularly wise Within ufology there is a mixed bag of what is truly anomalous and what is misrepresented as truth UFO encompass a wide gamut of areas, with science at the forefront of the discussion in modern times.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, No, science is not at the forefront of UFO studies. The most insightful research into UFOs have been in religious studies. Science hasn’t provided much insight into UFOs at all. What it has provided has been spurious.
My response, John, I am so happy you fight UFO nonsense claims. Thanks.
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, I’ve been observing discourse about UFOs for over fifty years. It hasn’t changed much at all, sort of like discourse about leprechauns.
My response, I only started seeing the truth on many things like in 2006, when I turned atheist in college after learning science, history, and some archaeology facts helping me think more critically.
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, Critical thinking is a valuable skill set. I wish more people exercised it regularly. For me, UFOs can be readily explained by wishful thinking, emotional responses, and how these bias perception. Occam’s razor directs us to consider these first.
My response, I agree and appreciate all your work helping others think better on all kinds of things.
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, For example, John Moffitt begins his discussion of imagination and extraterrestrials by referring to traditions and discussions about angels, demons, incubi, succubi, etc. Current discussions of UFOs can be contextualized by substituting the word “angels.”
My response, One of these days John, I would enjoy having you come on my YouTube show and explain and expose all this stuff on UFO beliefs as so many are filled with errors in thinking on this or believe the pseudo-history and or Ancient Aliens conspiracy theories. I don’t believe in Aliens.
Trent Brace @TrentBrace, I understand your level of skepticism I do. I don’t profess to know what UFO/UAP are, but I have had a few unambiguous events If you’re prepared to listen, I’m prepared to share them with you (two I have video of) I had no interest in UFOs or Twitter, but here I am.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, Thanks, but I’m not interested in personal anecdotes about UFOs. They are a dime a dozen. “Your logical fallacy is: anecdotal, You used a personal experience or an isolated example instead of a sound argument or compelling evidence.” https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal
Trent Brace @TrentBrace, “As in origin, agreed As to evaluating characteristics that would make paste of a human given our regular rate of time/gravity force I would say more is known than you may think Through observation we make breakthroughs, that’s science.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, There have been no breakthroughs in ufology since it began.
Trent Brace @TrentBrace, “Theoretical warp drives are derived from thoughts about manipulating the metric of spacetime. That doesn’t happen without observing objects with ‘flight’ characteristics that would obliterate know materials (hint the maths adds up, engineering is the obstacle)”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, “That doesn’t happen without observing objects with ‘flight’ characteristics that would obliterate know materials.” That’s absurd.
Trent Brace @TrentBrace, “So is watching an apple fall to the ground and thinking about gravity right?”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, Apples really do fall to the ground.
Trent Brace @TrentBrace, ” It also inspired Newtonian physics, which apparently, gravity hadn’t been something of a topic of discussion until then. Funny how an observation lead to historic discovery.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, I think the story of Isaac Newton and the apple is folklore, sort of like UFOs. Well, parts of it are folklore: Newton’s apple: The real story
John Havlasek @John_Havlasek, ” For example we humans send a space drone to another planet, and the inhabitants there see our drone and they are in 20th-century tech-wise according to our tech history and they call it UFO well can you tell me how that is not scientific? Anunnaki? You read the Sumerian tablets?”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, What does that have to do with UFOs?
My response, When I hear people say Sumerians and UFOs, I think people are restating how they have been deceived by the pseudo-history champions Erich von Däniken, Zecharia Sitchin, or Ancient Aliens.
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, Quite true. Zecharia Sitchin’s stuff is garbage. Get out of here with “Annunaki.” https://sitchiniswrong.com
John Havlasek @John_Havlasek, ” Look UFO um let me give you an example someone or group of people see a UFO, an object that is not common to that species, and they see it moving very fast or teleport from one location to another well what is it? It’s a UFO. Do you understand we are not the only intelligent species?”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, Now you are in the realm of folklore.
Tobias c. van Veen @fugitivephilo, ” That’s just not factually correct. It’s also a military and aviation designation for precisely what it means. Unidentified. Flying. Object. That is all. And what they might be certainly remains a question for science.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, “Unidentified. Flying. Object. That is all.” If it’s unidentified, how do you know that it’s an object that’s flying?
Tobias c. van Veen @fugitivephilo, “Also worth noting that UFO is a dated term. The aviation/military term is now UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon), which makes more clear that what is observed cannot be (immediately) categorized as object, vehicle, or meteorological event by either pilot and/or sensors.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, The phrase “aerial phenomenon” is a misnomer. Neither optical illusions nor instrument errors are “aerial.” Optical illusions are human perceptual and cognitive errors. Instrument errors are technical glitches that result in human misinterpretations. Both are directly relevant.
Psudo @PsudoPlays, “I don’t know… being that the existence of unidentified aerial phenomena has been confirmed by the powers that be. I’m not sure why UFOs are tending specifically, but if it’s removed from the “little green men” stigma, I could see the use of discussing it in a scientific light.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, “The existence of unidentified aerial phenomena” Confirmation that people don’t know what the hell they’re seeing?
Neal Olson @nealolson0, “About forty years ago I and one other saw a phenomenon without explanation or comparison but in specific, singular elements in historical or contemporary stories of UAP/UMAL. I’ve no interest in ever speaking to the bated breath, “It’s aliens” UFO-set.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, “Forty years ago, I saw something I couldn’t identify.”
Tracing Owls @TracingOwls, “Science is the new religion, and folklore has adapted to fit within its mold”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, Science is not religion.
Tracing Owls @TracingOwls, “Learn to understand metaphors and abstractions.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, I understand metaphors and abstractions. Was your statement intended to be metaphor?
Dances With Wolves @DanceWlthWolves, “Sorry, you missed the point – UFOs are “Unidentified”, in every perspective…”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, And therefore impossible to free from this logical fallacy. Sorry, not science. Not even decent logic. “Argument from ignorance (from Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance represents “a lack of contrary evidence”), is a fallacy in informal logic.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
Dances With Wolves @DanceWlthWolves, “Look… They are what they are – Unidentified. We can find many bullshits about UFOs, but some strange and unexplainable observations may occur, and I witness one myself, along with many other people in neighboring cities and villages.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, Sure, but if it’s unidentified, you can’t say that it’s anything.
David Charmichael @DavidCharmicha2, Air defence, safety. Exotic aviation technology. Black programs from foreign powers.
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, Airborne trash. From balloons and drones.
King Milkfart @King_Milkfart, ” Okay you see now that’s a much more concise argument that I can have a back and forth about. So, what would you say is a more likely explanation for a craft that are moving at speeds unknown to human technology, without creating Sonic booms, and confirmed as non-black projects? How am I misrepresenting an argument when I am literally quoting the argument verbatim? All you have to do is address what I am now linking for the third time, and you have failed to do so: “Aliens never happened, and beliefs otherwise are wishful thinking as well as pseudo-history conspiracy theories.” That’s a fucking claim. Period. lol”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, I think you need to review the concept. It is exactly what you are doing: misrepresenting an argument in order to make it easier for you to challenge. Go ahead and battle your strawmen if you must, but leave our valid arguments alone. “A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
King Milkfart @King_Milkfart, “Straw man my ass. You completely disregarded the claim that I quoted so you could rhetorically form your own. If you want to have a non-disingenuous conversation refer to.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, “Alien life never occurred” That’s not how I understood what @AthopeMarie Damien Marie AtHope, meant. He was referring to UFOs and “ancient aliens” on Earth, not any possible speck of life ever anywhere in the history of the whole Universe. Don’t be absurd. You are setting up a straw man.
My response, I was talking about Ancient Aliens nonsense as well as all claims to UFOs people try and say are some kind of proof of aliens. I would say I don’t know if life is out in the universe somewhere in some kind or way. I believe it is possible life may be out somewhere but not here.
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, So, there you go. It was a false interpretation.
My response, I said: “Ancient Aliens never happened”, you cut out, me saying “Ancient” and to do so is not accurate and looks like you are trying to make it look like I said something different. It is not intellectually honest to alter what someone states to attack it. (((I completely agree with John on this, UFOs are not aliens and I have understood this for many years. Ancient Aliens never happened, and beliefs otherwise are wishful thinking as well as pseudo-history conspiracy theories.)))
King Milkfart @King_Milkfart, “That’s my mistake then. I did not mean to cut out the word ancient. If you are positive that you do not believe there is enough evidence for the ancient alien theory, I will not argue that. However, I do not think that has mutual exclusivity with the UFO phenomenon in any way.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, Progress!
King Milkfart @King_Milkfart, “Okay you see now that’s a much more concise argument that I can have a back and forth about. So what would you say is a more likely explanation for craft that are moving at speeds unknown to human technology, without creating Sonic booms, and confirmed as non-black projects?”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, “So what would you say is a more likely explanation for craft that are moving at speeds unknown to human technology”, I think we need to question a basic assumption of yours that’s pretty big right off the bat. What’s the evidence that whatever it is qualifies as “craft”?
King Milkfart @King_Milkfart, “Are you serious? Read the June 2021 preliminary UAPTF report. And then work forward in time from there. I’m sorry that you have not been keeping abreast on the subject, but you are asking questions that have been officially documented to have been answered for over a year now”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, Claiming there are “craft that are moving at speeds unknown to human technology… without creating sonic booms” is like claiming there are angels that come down from Heaven to answer our prayers. What’s the evidence?
King Milkfart @King_Milkfart, “What you just said is absurd because there are copious amounts of evidence. The United States Department of Defense literally created two separate task forces and two separate departments for this. The best technology on Earth has confirmed that these are physical objects.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, “The best technology on Earth has confirmed that these are physical objects.” That *what* are physical objects?
King Milkfart @King_Milkfart, “The things that are traversing at ultrasonic speeds, without creating a sonic boom, while having transmedium capabilities, maneuvering in ways we cannot recreate nor explain. Those. Those are confirmed as physical objects. With the greatest radar/sensor tech on earth.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, “The United States department of Defense literally created two separate tasks forces and two separate departments for this.” Once again, “Your logical fallacy is: appeal to authority, You said that because an authority thinks something, it must therefore be true.” https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, “without creating Sonic booms” Maybe it’s not a craft at all but an optical illusion. “The things that are traversing at ultrasonic speeds, without creating a sonic boom, while having transmedium capabilities, maneuvering in ways we cannot recreate nor explain.” Can you provide a specific example?
King Milkfart @King_Milkfart, “Except we have multiple confirmed sensor readings proving they are physical objects. You haven’t researched this much, have you? The govt literally already admitted all of this.”
John Hoopes @KUHoopes, You’re the one who needs to provide the evidence. Have at it. What’s the evidence?
Are aliens real? Think so than prove evidence, not a just conjecture hypothesis and inference speculations.
I am open to proof; until then I will state facts we have no proof.
A person commenting about the commenter, “She doesn’t stand a chance…she equally doesn’t know why she started a debate on this topic.” And another person stated, “Are you aware that if you are offended by comments people make on fb, it’s okay to keep scrolling and not let it ruin your day?! No reason to offend someone because you don’t like what they do! That is ignorance. Have a nice day.” And yet another person stated, “please elaborate, what evidence convinced you that there is life outside this planet?”“There are hundreds of billions of stars just in our own galaxy. There are hundreds of billions of galaxies. Planets outnumber the stars. Alien life (intelligent or otherwise) is completely plausible. I know there’s life out there. We just have to discover it. & I’d say we’re really close. Given the vastness of the universe, the odds that life exists on this planet only are infinitesimally small. It’s 3 billion miles from Earth to Pluto. It took New Horizons 9.5 years to get there WITH a Jupiter gravity assist. It was moving at roughly 35,000 mph when it flew by Pluto. If there is intelligent life elsewhere in the galaxy (and there probably is) we’ll most likely never know about it.” – Another Commenter My response, I am open to proof until then I will state facts we have no proof. Are aliens real? Think so than prove evidence, not a just conjecture hypothesis and inference speculations. I see it like the Gambler’s Fallacy and the Misuse of the Law of Large Numbers. Large numbers add to likely hood but from our single source earth this is still speculation adding numbers is still adding to the hypothesis presumed possible justification.
“You either subscribe to the notion that life on Earth was a one-off miracle occurring only here in this vast universe… or you subscribe to the notion that you need only the right ingredients and circumstances on a planet in the habitable zone of a star and, voila, you have life. It’s not magic.” – Another CommenterMy response, Are you trying a black and white fallacy? The Black-or-White fallacy occurs in arguments that have a disjunctive premiss―that is, one that gives alternatives―when one or more alternatives is incorrectly omitted. The fallacy tries to force you to choose either black or white when gray is an available alternative. I can both not believe in the nonevidence magic and the nonevidence life external of the Earth to this point. “Just pointing out the likelihood of life on other planets, many other planets. Some probably existing long ago and now gone. Some yet to exist after life on this planet is long gone. Some more intelligent than life on this planet. Some way less advanced. The universe is vast and varied. We are not unique or exceptional. It is a safer bet to go with life elsewhere than to go with we are exceptional. To say there is either life out there or not is not black-or-white.” – Another Commenter My response, Ok, You either subscribe (black-or-white fallacy) to the notion that life on Earth was a one off miracle ocurring only here in this vast universe. “Dramatic license. The point was you either by into the notion of life elsewhere or you don’t. The evidence leans towards there is life elsewhere. We may never be able to physically explore far enough to document it but we can extrapolate.” – Another Commenter My response, I subscribe to evidence to which as I have said we have not one bit of evidence currently to prove life external the earth and I did not say the there could never have been that are now extinct as almost happened on earth as we have lost almost 99 % of all life to extension on this planet so it may have started somewhere else and died off or could be now or could start in the future. My issue is people claim it as fact that there is life then jump further from facts to blind belief stating they know advanced life exists even sometimes saying they know the aliens are more advanced. My thoughts on this are where is the required epistemic humility or intellectual honesty that one’s beliefs are proportioned to the evidence available. I will update when the evidence updates. Having one’s beliefs proportioned to the evidence available would help rain in this unjustified speculative belief. Sure it is reasonable to say one is open to proof and not willing to act as if speculation is fact when no external evidence is supporting this strong belief. I am open but no I do not see the evidence needed for such strong belief. “I see the universe as an ever-changing entity with galaxies constantly being created and constantly being destroyed. And stars and planets within these galaxies constantly being created and destroyed. The lifespan of a planet is small contrasted with the lifespan of the universe itself. We know that life is a part of this universe because we experience it ourselves. Why would you not accept life as much an integral part of the universe as stars, planets, and black holes? Religion teaches us that life on Earth is a special creation of God and humans are the central character in this creation. I simply reject that limited thinking and prefer to expand my view from a universal perspective. But I understand your adherence to the solid evidence.” – Another Commenter My response, (((Why would you not accept))) You mean Why would I not have a strong belief in something that is not in evidence? Life is not evident anywhere but earth. I am open to evidence and there is none. “I immediately edited that upon proofreading.” – Another Commenter My response, Right on, I strive to do Thinking-proofreading.
Marquis Amon “It seems that some think their is evidence of life outside the planet earth. It would be very helpful to direct people thinking otherwise to the evidence. The only “evidence” known is a statistical probability that aliens exist, mathematically. Damien is clearly regarding the obvious absence of physical evidence. Mathematical probability cannot confirm the truth of alien existence. It merely takes known information and applies it. With many Earth-like planets, life could happen naturally elsewhere because the conditions can logically be met. I can’t say there are aliens, because we haven’t encountered any yet. If you have sugar, dough, and chocolate chips, you could make chocolate chip cookies, but that doesn’t mean you actually made them.”
While hallucinogens are associated with shamanism, it is alcohol that is associated with paganism.
The Atheist-Humanist-Leftist Revolutionaries Shows in the prehistory series:
Show six: Emergence of hierarchy, sexism, slavery, and the new male god dominance: Paganism 7,000-5,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Capitalism) (World War 0) Elite and their slaves!
Show eight: Paganism 4,000 years old: Moralistic gods after the rise of Statism and often support Statism/Kings: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (First Moralistic gods, then the Origin time of Monotheism)
Prehistory: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” the division of labor, power, rights, and recourses: VIDEO
Pre-animism 300,000 years old and animism 100,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”: VIDEO
Totemism 50,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”: VIDEO
Shamanism 30,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”: VIDEO
Paganism 12,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Pre-Capitalism): VIDEO
Paganism 7,000-5,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Capitalism) (World War 0) Elite and their slaves: VIEDO
Paganism 5,000 years old: progressed organized religion and the state: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Kings and the Rise of the State): VIEDO
Paganism 4,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (First Moralistic gods, then the Origin time of Monotheism): VIEDO
I do not hate simply because I challenge and expose myths or lies any more than others being thought of as loving simply because of the protection and hiding from challenge their favored myths or lies.
The truth is best championed in the sunlight of challenge.
An archaeologist once said to me “Damien religion and culture are very different”
My response, So are you saying that was always that way, such as would you say Native Americans’ cultures are separate from their religions? And do you think it always was the way you believe?
I had said that religion was a cultural product. That is still how I see it and there are other archaeologists that think close to me as well. Gods too are the myths of cultures that did not understand science or the world around them, seeing magic/supernatural everywhere.
I personally think there is a goddess and not enough evidence to support a male god at Çatalhöyük but if there was both a male and female god and goddess then I know the kind of gods they were like Proto-Indo-European mythology.
This series idea was addressed in, Anarchist Teaching as Free Public Education or Free Education in the Public: VIDEO
Our 12 video series: Organized Oppression: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of power (9,000-4,000 years ago), is adapted from: The Complete and Concise History of the Sumerians and Early Bronze Age Mesopotamia (7000-2000 BC): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szFjxmY7jQA by “History with Cy“
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Cory Johnston ☭ Ⓐ Atheist Leftist @Skepticallefty & I (Damien Marie AtHope) @AthopeMarie (my YouTube & related blog) are working jointly in atheist, antitheist, antireligionist, antifascist, anarchist, socialist, and humanist endeavors in our videos together, generally, every other Saturday.
Why Does Power Bring Responsibility?
Think, how often is it the powerless that start wars, oppress others, or commit genocide? So, I guess the question is to us all, to ask, how can power not carry responsibility in a humanity concept? I know I see the deep ethical responsibility that if there is power their must be a humanistic responsibility of ethical and empathic stewardship of that power. Will I be brave enough to be kind? Will I possess enough courage to be compassionate? Will my valor reach its height of empathy? I as everyone, earns our justified respect by our actions, that are good, ethical, just, protecting, and kind. Do I have enough self-respect to put my love for humanity’s flushing, over being brought down by some of its bad actors? May we all be the ones doing good actions in the world, to help human flourishing.
I create the world I want to live in, striving for flourishing. Which is not a place but a positive potential involvement and promotion; a life of humanist goal precision. To master oneself, also means mastering positive prosocial behaviors needed for human flourishing. I may have lost a god myth as an atheist, but I am happy to tell you, my friend, it is exactly because of that, leaving the mental terrorizer, god belief, that I truly regained my connected ethical as well as kind humanity.
Cory and I will talk about prehistory and theism, addressing the relevance to atheism, anarchism, and socialism.
At the same time as the rise of the male god, 7,000 years ago, there was also the very time there was the rise of violence, war, and clans to kingdoms, then empires, then states. It is all connected back to 7,000 years ago, and it moved across the world.
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Damien Marie AtHope (“At Hope”) Axiological Atheist, Anti-theist, Anti-religionist, Secular Humanist. Rationalist, Writer, Artist, Poet, Philosopher, Advocate, Activist, Psychology, and Armchair Archaeology/Anthropology/Historian.
Damien is interested in: Freedom, Liberty, Justice, Equality, Ethics, Humanism, Science, Atheism, Antiteism, Antireligionism, Ignosticism, Left-Libertarianism, Anarchism, Socialism, Mutualism, Axiology, Metaphysics, LGBTQI, Philosophy, Advocacy, Activism, Mental Health, Psychology, Archaeology, Social Work, Sexual Rights, Marriage Rights, Woman’s Rights, Gender Rights, Child Rights, Secular Rights, Race Equality, Ageism/Disability Equality, Etc. And a far-leftist, “Anarcho-Humanist.”
I am not a good fit in the atheist movement that is mostly pro-capitalist, I am anti-capitalist. Mostly pro-skeptic, I am a rationalist not valuing skepticism. Mostly pro-agnostic, I am anti-agnostic. Mostly limited to anti-Abrahamic religions, I am an anti-religionist.
To me, the “male god” seems to have either emerged or become prominent around 7,000 years ago, whereas the now favored monotheism “male god” is more like 4,000 years ago or so. To me, the “female goddess” seems to have either emerged or become prominent around 11,000-10,000 years ago or so, losing the majority of its once prominence around 2,000 years ago due largely to the now favored monotheism “male god” that grow in prominence after 4,000 years ago or so.
My Thought on the Evolution of Gods?
Animal protector deities from old totems/spirit animal beliefs come first to me, 13,000/12,000 years ago, then women as deities 11,000/10,000 years ago, then male gods around 7,000/8,000 years ago. Moralistic gods around 5,000/4,000 years ago, and monotheistic gods around 4,000/3,000 years ago.
Damien Marie AtHope (Said as “At” “Hope”)/(Autodidact Polymath but not good at math):
Axiological Atheist, Anti-theist, Anti-religionist, Secular Humanist, Rationalist, Writer, Artist, Jeweler, Poet, “autodidact” Philosopher, schooled in Psychology, and “autodidact” Armchair Archaeology/Anthropology/Pre-Historian (Knowledgeable in the range of: 1 million to 5,000/4,000 years ago). I am an anarchist socialist politically. Reasons for or Types of Atheism