I think the possible references are most likely a reference to how the world underwater was the underworld, land of the dead, or ancestors, so fish could reference the avatars for ancestors. It is also possible they were or later became associated with deities or clan totems. Ancestors were commonly associated with the heavens of stars but what we need to remember is many early cultures saw the heavens as a cosmic ocean, celestial river, or heavenly waters.
Cosmic Ocean or Celestial River
“A cosmic ocean or celestial river is a mythological motif found in the mythology of many cultures and civilizations, representing the world or cosmos as enveloped by primordial waters. In creation myths, the primordial waters are often represented as originally having filled the entire universe, being the first source of the gods’ cosmos with the act of creation corresponding to the establishment of an inhabitable space separate from the enveloping waters.” ref “In the first creation story in the Bible, there is only earth and water: “Now the earth was unformed and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep
Heavenly Waters
“The Heavenly Waters draws from the Mesopotamian tradition associating the dim area between Sagittarius and Orion with the god Ea and the Waters of the Abyss. Aquarius and Capricornus, derived from Mesopotamian constellations, would have been natural members had they not already been assigned to the Zodiac group. Instead, Menzel expanded the area and included several disparate constellations, most associated with water in some form: Delphinus, Equuleus, Eridanus, Piscis Austrinus, Carina, Puppis, Vela, Pyxis, and Columba. Carina, Puppis, and Vela historically formed part of the former constellation Argo Navis, which in Greek tradition represented the ship of Jason.” ref
This, to me, is similar to “how stars represented where represented at fish in the Harappan and Indus script where ‘Fish’ pictograms generally meant ‘Star.’ In the Sumerian script, the ‘star’ pictogram means not only dingir ‘god’ but also anu ‘sky’, and Anu was the leading divinity of the Sumerian pantheon, his symbol started also meaning ‘godhead’, and then ‘god’ in general.” ref
“In Sumerian mythology, Nammu/Namma, was a primeval goddess, corresponding to Tiamat in Babylonian mythology. Nammu was the Goddess sea (Engur) that gave birth to An (heaven) and Ki (earth) and the first gods, representing the Apsu, the fresh water ocean that the Sumerians believed lay beneath the earth, the source of life-giving water and fertility in a country with almost no rainfall.” ref
“The ‘fish’ pictogram of the Indus script appears to have had a somewhat similar background. The reason why ‘fish’ and not ‘star’ was selected to represent the concept of ‘god’ seems to be that in the Early Harappan religion the fish occupied a central position: fish is one of the most popular motifs of the Early Harappan painted pottery (Fig. 9). As the aquatic animal par excellence, it appears to symbolize the God of Waters. The importance of this deity in the Harappan pantheon is proved by his popularity in the Harappan iconography.” ref
The famous “Proto-Siva” wears the horns of a water-buffalo, another animal closely associated with water. ref
“The first seal depicts a nude male and possible deity with three faces, seated in yogic position on a throne, wearing bangles on both arms and an elaborate headdress. Five symbols of the Indus script appear on either side of the headdress which is made of two outward projecting buffalo style curved horns, with two upward projecting points. A single branch with three pipal leaves rises from the middle of the headdress.” ref
“The second is a thought to be a Harappan “Proto-Siva” depicted on a seal from Mohenjo-daro. In one Indus-type cylinder seal from the Near East, this buffalo-horned deity is surrounded by a pair of buffaloes, a pair of snakes, and a pair of fish (drawn exactly like the ‘fish’ pictograms of the Indus script).” ref
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THE INVENTORY OF DANUBE SCRIPT SIGNS
“There are said to be around 292 sign types from a catalog of 5,421 actual signs recorded from the corpus of 1178 inscriptions and 971 inscribed artifacts (some finds have more than one inscription). This means that each inventoried sign has an average frequency of more than 18.5 times. Due to the wide geographic area and long period under investigation, 1178 inscriptions and 971 inscribed artifacts are not enough to settle definitively the inventory of the signs. Precucuteni-Cucuteni-Ariuşd-Trypillia inscribed finds and inscriptions, whereas in that cultural complex a system of writing related the Danube script possibly occurred and not the Danube script itself upon 148 objects and 156 inscriptions from the Turdaş culture; and upon 151 objects and 164 inscriptions from the Vinča culture.” ref
“The inventories of all ancient writing systems are composed of a high number of signs (from hundreds to thousands of signs), because the logographic principle of ars scribendi demands individual signs for rendering individual concepts or ideas. In a comparative view, the some more of 320-350 signs of the Danube script, once settled the inventory, are much less than the 760 individual signs of the Egyptian hieroglyphic in the second millennium BC, the 770 signs operated by the Ancient Sumerian pictography (of the Uruk III and IV periods) or the nearly 1000 signs belonging to the repertory of the Proto-Elamite script. The analogous number of signs listed by the Danube script and the ancient Indus (410) is not a coincidence, but roots in similar function according to a networking “inhabited” society.” ref
“The amount of signs employed by the Danube script poses the question of the function and developing path of this system of writing. Was the relatively low number of signs due to the specialized nature of the script as sacral tool utilized in liturgies? Alternatively, are they in limited figures because the system of writing was “frozen” by the collapse of the Danube civilization when it was in transition from a chiefly logographic system, which neglected the sound sequences of spoken words in favor of the concepts to be transmitted, to a logographic one with more significant (or less insignificant) phonetic components?” ref
“The main partition of the 292 inventoried signs is between 203 abstract signs, 52 pictograms/ideograms, and 37 numerical signs. The categories of signs operate in an integrated way. The boundaries of division by three parts in progress. Since the Palaeolithic assemblage, there is evidence of the human capacity to produce figurative images (depicting natural phenomena, living beings, structures and artifacts in representational style) as well as abstract signs and geometrical motifs such as rows of dots and grids. Concerning the Danube script categorizes as abstract signs the basic geometric forms that lack any recognizable visual association with natural or artificial objects and phenomena (V, X, Y, lozenge, triangle…). It has been identified as pictograms/ideograms signs depicting occurrences resulting from natural forces, living creatures or objects that can be recognized in association with the figurative sense of that time and although the high degree of stylization (e.g., the depiction of a sledge or a flag).” ref
“The author does not exclude that the refining of the analysis in light of the tendency of the Danube civilization toward the stabilization of sign forms will lead from the abstract field to the pictographic/ideographic field, or reversely. Statistical evidence leads to identify some sign that functioned as numerals, although the detection is still quite putative.If the establishment of the border between abstractness and iconography in sign shape is in progress and partially presumptive, a firm point – comparing the Danube script with the other ancient scripts – is its high degree of abstractness, the proportions of abstract signs that serve to render information outnumber iconic signs. Abstractness and schematization of sign shape are among the prominent features of the Danube script.” ref
“In the Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic of Southeastern Europe, the angle-sign was employed not only asornamental motif, but also as symbol conveying messages. The linear, discrete, and complex arrangement of the V and the Λ with Y, W and N signs along two clearly intentional registers characterizes the Mousterian bone from Bacho Kiro, in Bulgaria, dated 44,000-42,000 BP. A“summa” of the geometric forms based on the angle occurs on an amulet from Mitoc-Malu Galben (Northeastern Romania), which is dated 2,6400 +- 10,400 BP.” ref
“The geometric and numerological patterns engraved on a fragment of bone recovered at Ţibrinu (Romania), 20,000 year ago, are based on combinations of angles. Angles occur, among other linear geometries, on an Upper Palaeolithic rib of a polar reindeer unhearted at Cosăuţi (Republic of Moldavia). From the same site, a V associated with a \ appears on the back of a zomorphic figurine. Precise sequences of V, <>, >< (as well as X, and meanders) compose messages on long-necked humanoids- birds discovered at Mezin and Mezhirich (Ukraine). They belong to c. 19,000-17,000 years ago. V and Λ are positioned in opposition on a Mesolithic bone found at the shelter Lviv VII.” ref
“Within the framework of the Danube script, the angle-sign is structured in 4 root-signs (V, Λ, <, >) and 52 derived signs from the three above-mentioned rules: 22 from the V; 20 from the Λ; 6 from the <; and 4 from the >. The four versions of the angle-sign score the highest recurrence in the data bank: 27.8% of the abstract signs and 19.9% of the totality of the signs. In addition, they are the most frequent sign in combination with others. They appear often in evidence, preeminence or with expanded dimension on ritual vases, figurines,votive altars, seals, miniature vessels. Finally, in many instances they are closely associated with female divinities iconography on whose body is incised single or in combination with other distinctive marks of the deity and its attributes. Gimbutas associates this sign with the Bird Goddess. In the Danube civilization, the down pointed angle was part of the set of key mark sappearing in the whole range of channels for communication messages to be conveyed. As investigated in the chapter “Matrix of semiotic rules and markers…”, it is a frequent element of decorations on human and animal statuettes, pots and mignon altars. On figurines, the V, simple or replied into a chevron, is often prominently draped as sex or, around the neck, as symbolic necklace or V-necked attire.” ref
“In other instances,this sign represents the eye of the statuette. In the Danube script, the V is the most important root-sign scoring the main number of occurrences and variants. It can appear both single or as element of bi-more sign inscriptions. The V is a permanent sign of the Danube script, being present throughout the whole sequence of it from the Formative phase up to the Eclipse phase. However, it is concentrated in the Neolithic. The high frequency in the Formative phase of the script confirms its seniority and early utilization in the Serbian-Romanian area of the Starčevo-Criş (Körös) cultural complex. The Vinča was the culture that employed the V at most during the Middle/Developed and Late Neolithic.” ref
“In the Copper Age, the hub of the V movedtowards south being mainly present, in Early Copper Age, in the Gradešnica-Brenica culture and Gradešnica-Slatino I-III and Slatino IV assemblage; in the Middle Copper Age, it moved in the Karanovo VI – Gumelniţa B – Kodžadermen assemblage. The most frequent inscribed objects bearing Vs are pot shards and human figurines. Remarkable is also the presence on mignon altars-offering tables and vessels. The typology of the artifacts and the distinctive position of the V on them evidence the historical importance with religious signification of this sign. In the Formative phase of the system of writing, nearly half of the Vs are concentrated on mignon altars-offering tables confirming the sacral origin and utilization of the Danube script. Due to the productiveness of the V in the number of variants, it will be utilized in order to illustrate the three above-mentioned ways (and related criticalities) according to which root-signs can be modified to enlarge their repertory.” ref
To me, the Lepenski Vir Iron-Gates Culture of the Balkans may relate to other cultures in the general area from other times like the Gravettian and Epigravettian and in a defused way maybe the Magdalenian
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“The Gravettian (30,000 to 20,000 years) is drawn in black and white; the subsequent Magdalenian (17,000 to 10,000 years) and Hamburgian (13,000-11,750 years) are in light blue and red. It is not known whether the spread of the Gravettian was a result of diffusion of people or cultures. This figure illustrates the possible monocentric origins of the Gravettian, in which the Gravettian is hypothesized to have its origin in the Middle Danube Basin, first spreading west (solid lines) and later spreading east and southeast (dashed lines). This scenario is largely based on the chronology of sites. Thus far, genome-wide data has been collected from only three of the ten< Gravettian regions indicated on the map. These regions are northern Austria (1 sample), the Czech Republic (6), southern Italy (3) and Belgium (3), indicating that they all share a genomic ancestry. However, it is unknown whether samples from the remaining regions also share a close genomic ancestry. Some skeletal remains associated with the Gravettian that could be investigated paleogenomically are from Sungir (Russia); Laghar Velho (central Portugal); Cussac Cave; Les Garennes, near Vilhonneur; and Level 2 at Abri Pataud116 (western France). Light blue and light red regions represent the approximate distributions of the Magdalenian Culture and the Hamburgian Culture (13,000-11,750 years). Figure adapted from Kozłowski.” ref
“The fairly homogeneous post-15,000 years ago the population of mainland Europe labeled WHG (represented by Villabruna) appear to represent a deep strain of ancestry that seems to have contributed to West Eurasians from the Gravettian era down to the Neolithic period.” ref
“Haplogroup R1b in the ~14,000-year-old Villabruna individual from Italy. While the predominance of R1b in western Europe today owes its origin to Bronze Age migrations from the eastern European steppe, its presence in Villabruna and in a ~7,000-year-old farmer from Iberia document a deeper history of this haplotype in more western parts of Europe. Additional evidence of an early link between west and east comes from the HERC2 locus, where a derived allele that is the primary driver of light eye color in Europeans appears nearly simultaneously in specimens from Italy and the Caucasus ~14,000-13,000 years ago.” ref
“Villabruna is representative of the WHG group. We also include ElMiron, the best sample from the Magdalenian era as we noticed that within the WHG group there were individuals that could not be modeled as a simple clade with Villabruna but also had some ElMiron-related ancestry. Ddudzuana is representative of the Ice Age Caucasus population, differentiated from Villabruna by Basal Eurasian ancestry. AG3 represents ANE/Upper Paleolithic Siberian ancestry, sampled from the vicinity of Lake Baikal, whileRussia_Baikal_EN related to eastern Eurasians and represents a later layer of ancestry from the same region of Siberia as AG3.” ref
“It has been suggested that there is an Anatolia Neolithic-related affinity in hunter-gatherers from the Iron Gates. Our analysis confirms this by showing that this population has Dzudzuana-related ancestry as do many hunter-gatherer populations from southeastern Europe, eastern Europe, and Scandinavia. These populations cannot be modeled as a simple mixture of Villabruna and AG3 but require extra Dzudzuana-related ancestry even in the conservative estimates, with a positive admixture proportion inferred for several more in the speculative ones. Thus, the distinction between European hunter-gatherers and Near Eastern populations may have been gradual in pre-Neolithic times; samples from the Aegean (intermediate between those from the Balkans and Anatolia) may reveal how gradual the transition between Dzudzuana-like Neolithic Anatolians and mostly Villabruna-like hunter-gatherers was in southeastern Europe.” ref
“Villabruna: This type of ancestry differentiates between present-day Europeans and non-Europeans within West Eurasia, attaining a maximum of ~20% in the Baltic in accordance with previous observations and with the finding of a later persistence of significant hunter-gatherer ancestry in the region. Its proportion drops to ~0% throughout the Near East. Interestingly, a hint of such ancestry is also inferred in all North African populations west of Libya in the speculative proportions, consistent with an archaeogenetic inference of gene flow from Iberia to North Africa during the Late Neolithic.” ref
“ElMiron: This type of ancestry is absent in present-day West Eurasians. This may be because most of the Villabruna-related ancestry in Europeans traces to WHG populations that lacked it (since ElMiron-related ancestry is quite variable within European hunter-gatherers). However, ElMiron ancestry makes up only a minority component of all WHG populations sampled to date and WHG-related ancestry is a minority component of present-day Europeans.” ref
Regional diversity in subsistence among early farmers in Southeast Europe revealed by archaeological organic residues
“The spread of early farming across Europe from its origins in Southwest Asia was a culturally transformative process which took place over millennia. Within regions, the pace of the transition was probably related to the particular climatic and environmental conditions encountered, as well as the nature of localized hunter-gatherer and farmer interactions. The establishment of farming in the interior of the Balkans represents the first movement of Southwest Asian livestock beyond their natural climatic range, and widespread evidence now exists for early pottery being used extensively for dairying. However, pottery lipid residues from sites in the Iron Gates region of the Danube in the northern Balkans show that here, Neolithic pottery was being used predominantly for processing aquatic resources. This stands out not only within the surrounding region but also contrasts markedly with Neolithic pottery use across wider Europe. These findings provide evidence for the strategic diversity within the wider cultural and economic practices during the Neolithic, with this exceptional environmental and cultural setting offering alternative opportunities despite the dominance of farming in the wider region.” ref
SUBSISTENCE STRATEGIES IN THE STONE AGE, DIRECT AND INDIRECT EVIDENCE OF FISHING AND GATHERING GRAVETTIAN AND EPIGRAVETTIAN IN THE CENTRAL BALKANS
“Numerous caves and rock-shelters in the Central Balkans contain Pleistocene deposits with Paleolithic artifacts and faunal remains. Gravettian and Epigravettian lithic artifacts, accompanied with abundant faunal remains, were initially documented in Šalitrena cave, near Mionica in western Serbia. Recently, four new sites with the Last Glacial deposits, including Gravettian occupation layers, have been discovered in the mountainous region of the Morava river basin in the central Balkans. These sites include Pećina kod stene (“cave above rock”) in the Jelašnica gorge, Velika Vranovica (referred to in the literature also as Donja pećina) in the Sićevo Gorge, Bukovac near Despotovac in the valley of the Resa- va river, a tributary of the Velika Morava river and Velika pećina (Large cave) in the narrow canyon of the Crna reka (river), a tributary of the Tisnica river.” ref
The Genomic History of Southeastern Europe
“Lepenski Vir (2 individuals) Lepenski Vir is one of the best-known archaeological sites in Europe. Situated 3 mi downstream from Padina in the upper part of the Iron Gates Gorge. The most abundant archaeological remains from Lepenski Vir belong to the Mesolithic and Early Neolithic periods, although there are also traces of occupation dated to the Chalcolithic, Bronze Age, Iron Age, Roman and Medieval periods. This is an area where an unprecedented array of archaeological features and artifacts relating to repeated use of the site over thousands of years was found.” ref
“These included the remains of around 70 buildings with trapezoidal bases and (often) furnished with lime plaster floors and stone bordered hearths, over 200 burials, and exceptional numbers of stone and bone artworks and body ornaments. A revised chronological framework with three main phases of Stone Age occupation of the site: Early–Middle Mesolithic, 11,500–9,300 years ago (‘Proto-Lepenski Vir’), Mesolithic-Neolithic Transition, 8,150–7,950 years ago (‘Lepenski Vir I–II’), Early/Middle Neolithic, 7,950–7,500 years ago (‘Lepenski Vir III’).” ref
“No evidence of a Late Mesolithic (9,300–8,200 years ago) occupation has been identified at Lepenski Vir, but the phase is well represented among the burials from Padina, Vlasac, Hajdučka Vodenica, Schela Cladovei and Ostrovul Corbului.” ref
Here is genetic data from two individuals:
• “I4665 / LEPI 54E This sample (a fragment of compact bone from the diaphysis of the left femur) comes from Burial 54e, one of five individuals (labelled a-e) that constituted ‘Burial 54’ and who were buried within the confines of a stratigraphically older building (65/XXXV). The skeleton (tentatively identified as that of a young adult female, around 20 years of age at death) was lying in the extended supine position, with the arms extended along the sides of the body. The orientation of the burial was parallel to the Danube with the head downriver. A direct measurement of 8,210–7,925 years ago) dates this individual to Borić’s Mesolithic-Neolithic transition (‘Lepenski Vir I–II’) phase. This dating is lower than the Mesolithic average and suggests a mixed terrestrial and aquatic diet, and the association with the skeleton of a bracelet of disk-shaped limestone beads, which are technologically characteristic of Neolithic modes of manufacturing and aesthetics. Analysis of tooth enamel suggests the individual was an immigrant whose childhood years were spent outside the Iron Gates region.” ref
• ” I4666/ LEPI_61 This sample (a fragment of compact bone from the diaphysis of the right femur) comes from Burial 61. This extended supine inhumation burial of a male child (~8 years) was found below the floor of trapezoidal building 40. The burial was oriented parallel to the Danube with the head downriver. It it is possible burial was placed here before the construction of the building floor as no burial pit at the floor level was identified. A date of around 8,225–7,910 years ago for the burial to Borić’s Mesolithic-Neolithic transition (‘Lepenski Vir I–II’) phase, suggests a typical Mesolithic diet in which fish was the main source of protein.” ref
“Mesolithic graves nos. 2 (left) and 25 (right) from Ostrovul Corbului.” ref
Ostrovul Corbului (2 individuals)
“Ostrovul Corbului is a former island in the Danube, 28 km downriver from Schela Cladovei in the “Downstream Area” of the Iron Gates. Remains of prehistoric settlement and burials assigned to various prehistoric periods (Mesolithic, Neolithic, Eneolithic, Bronze Age and Iron Age) were identified. A group of six primary inhumation burials (M2, M9, M24, M25, M30 and M32) were found in Sector A, at the downstream end of the island. Previous authors assigned these burials to either the Early Neolithic or the Mesolithic. AMS 14C dates on four of the burials (M2, M25, M30 and M32) confirm that they all belong to the Mesolithic. The ages of M2 and M25 fall in the Middle Mesolithic between 9,715- 9,190 years ago, and that of M32 in the Late Mesolithic between 9,021–8,473 years ago.” ref
• “I4081 / OSTCOR1a+1b / ROM47 These samples (a premolar and a canine) belong to an adult male from Burial M2. The body appears to have been buried in a sitting position with the legs flexed, raised and crossed at the ankles. Apart from a fragment of red ochre, no grave goods accompanied the burial.” ref
• “I4582 / OSTCOR32 This sample (a petrous temporal bone) comes from Burial M32. The skeleton (identified as that of an adult male, around 50 years of age at death) was lying in the extended supine position, with the arms extended along the sides of the body. No associated grave goods were reported.” ref
Schela Cladovei (2 individuals)
“Schela Cladovei, in Romania, is a large, open-air site on an Early Holocene terrace adjacent to the River Danube, c. 67 km downriver from Vlasac. It is situated a little more than 4.3 miles below the Iron Gates I dam, in the “Downstream Area” of the Iron Gates. The remains in those parts of the site that have been investigated relate mainly to the Late Mesolithic and Early Neolithic occupation. A large series of dates on animal and human remains places the Late Mesolithic occupation between around 9,200-8,300 years ago, and the Early Neolithic occupation between around 8,000-7,600 years ago. At least 75 burials, containing the remains of over a hundred individuals, have been excavated from the Schela Cladovei site so far, most of them dating to the Late Mesolithic.” ref
Genetic data from two individuals:
• I4607 / SCCL_46 / 1 (compact bone from diaphysis of right femur)
• I4655 / SCCL_50 (compact bone from diaphysis of right tibia)
“These were among 21 burials uncovered in an area c. 25 x 4 m immediately adjacent to the Danube riverbank between 1991 and 1996. Of those 21 burials, which included adults and children, 11 (all adults) have a date ranging between 9,010-8,600 years ago. Burials M46.1 and M50 were extended supine burrials of adult males, with their long axes aligned more-or-less parallel with the Danube. Body position and bone collagen δ15N values of >14‰, indicative of diets based on aquatic resources, point to a Late Mesolithic age confirmed burials.” ref
Măgura Buduiasca (Teleor 3) (1 individual)
“The Măgura Buduiasca site is in southern Romania, on the Teleorman River lower terrace, 10 km Northeast from the town of Alexandria (Teleorman County). Involving evidence of different Neolithic materials, revealing a large flat settlement. These investigations confirmed the following Neolithic stratigraphy: Early Neolithic (Starčevo-Criş), Middle Neolithic (Dudeşti culture), and Late Neolithic (Vădastra culture), implying a time span between around 8,100-7,200 years ago. The Neolithic occupation is overlapped in some areas by remains from later occupations (e.g. Bronze Age, Iron Age, Migration Period, and Middle Age). The Early Neolithic habitation is characterized by numerous pit-huts, pits, and hearths, but also a rich material culture that includes potsherds, figurines, flint and stone tools, grinding stones, wood items, bone ornaments and tools, shells, animal bones and scattered human bones. The Early Neolithic occupation from that site between 8,064-7,746 years ago.” ref
• “I2534 / TEL1 The sample included in the current study (a cranial fragment) belongs to an adult individual discovered in a Starčevo-Criş pit labeled C48. In the same pit were found other scattered human bones (a pair of humeri and another skull fragment), and it is possible that they belong to the same individual. Potsherds, flint tools, shells, and animal bones completed the pit inventory.” ref
Hajdučka Vodenica (4 individuals)
“The Mesolithic-Neolithic site of Hajdučka Vodenica is situated downstream from the Lower Gorge known as Kazan (“Cauldron” in Romanian and Serbian) in the Danube Gorges area, on the right (Serbian) bank of the river. At Hajdučka Vodenica there are two distinct areas of the site. In the first, southwestern area, rectangular stone-lined hearths were found with several superposed levels of stone constructions and associated with several burials. The second, central area of the site consisted of a burial “chamber” where 29 burials were placed in extended supine positions primarily parallel with the Danube (with the exception of Burials 9 and 12, which were perpendicular to the Danube) and associated with a rectangular stone-lined hearth, named “sacrificial” hearth area, which was surrounded by a packed red burnt earth flooring. The analyzed individual that was marked as Burial 19-20 belongs to one of several primary burials that were buried close to each other in this zone along with Burial 21 found buried still deeper inside the slope. The dates on human remains from Hajdučka Vodenica range between around 9,100–7,800 years ago, covering the period of the Late Mesolithic and the Mesolithic-Neolithic transition phase.” ref
Padina (12 individuals)
“The Mesolithic-Neolithic site of Padina – Gospođin Vir (Serbian: “Lady’s Whirlpool”) is situated at the upstream entrance to the Lady’s Whirlpool Gorge of the Danube Gorges area, on the right (Serbian) bank of the river. The site involves three connected coves marked as sectors I, II, and III along the bank of the Danube. Excavations produced 33 burials of primarily Early to Late Mesolithic date, comprising primary inhumations/burials, primary disturbed burials and secondary inhumations. However, three individuals (burials 4, 5 and 5a) found in a group burial at sector I are dated to the Mesolithic-Neolithic transition phase at the end of the 7th millennium BCE. A total of 13 dates on human remains from Padina range date between around 11,200–7,800 years ago.” ref
“The samples analyzed in the current study come from burials found at each of the three investigated sectors. Burials 9, 12, 14, 16a, 17, 18b, 22, 24, and 26 all come from Sector III and were found on the slope at the rear of the site away from the river and, based on their stratigraphic positions and some of the associated dates to the Early/Middle Mesolithic. Burial position could not be established for burial 9, which was found in the vicinity of more than two millennia later trapezoidal building structure 17. Close to a linear stone construction built in several levels were found burials 12, an extended supine inhumation; 14, an extended supine inhumation; 16a, seated with crossed lower limbs; 17, partly disturbed; 18b, some sort of seated position; 22, partly disturbed; and 26 as an extended supine inhumation.” ref
“Burial 24, an extended supine inhumation, was found farther to the south from the burial concentration found around the stone construction. At Sector II, Burials 6, a seated inhumation, and 30, a crouched inhumation, were found. A possibly Early/Middle Mesolithic date can be assumed for both burials in the absence of radiocarbon dates. At Sector I, Burials 4 and 5 were found one on top of the other with Burial 4 placed over Burial 5. Burial 4 was found as an extended supine inhumation and Burial 5 was a crouched inhumation and both of these burials can on the basis of radiocarbon dates be assigned to the Mesolithic-Neolithic transition phase in the last century of the 7th and the first century of the 6th millennium BCE.” ref
Vlasac (17 individuals)
“The Mesolithic-Neolithic site of Vlasac is situated in the upper part of the Danube Gorges, on the right (Serbian) bank of the river around 2 miles downstream from Lepenski Vir. Excavations produced over a hundred burials of primarily or exclusively Mesolithic date, comprising primary inhumations and secondary inhumations and cremations. A total of 14 dates from human remains from Vlasac range between around 11,300–8,000 years ago. Burial 17 was a seated burial with crossed lower limbs was dated to the Middle Mesolithic at the end of the 9th and the beginning of the 8th millennia BCE. Burial 16 was a disarticulated skull found close to Burial 17 and by association could also date to the same Middle Mesolithic time span.” ref
“Burial 51B was a secondary inhumation, comprising a pile of disarticulated bones. Burial 45 was a disturbed (extended supine?) inhumation burial of which only a small number of bones were found in situ (skull, clavicle, right humerus and a number of vertebrae). The skull was found resting on a large stone. Around the skull were found a number of cyprinid teeth (possibly ornamental appliqués originally attached to some form of headgear). Behind the stone supporting the skull was found a pile of cremated human bones and charred cyprinid teeth, designated Burial 45a, although these may represent secondary treatment and disposal of bones exhumed from Burial 45. Adult male Burial 6 was found as an extended supine inhumation and the torso of this individual was covered by ochre while a neonate burial marked as 6a was found on the right shoulder of this inhumation. The disarticulated remains of likely primary disturbed inhumation Burial 9 were found in a natural rocky depression, encircled by large rocks.” ref
Burial 80A was an extended supine inhumation of which only lower limbs were preserved in situ due to the damage caused by the interment of another extended supine inhumation Burial 80. All these burials can be dated to the duration of the regional Late Mesolithic. Three of the burials sampled for this study had previously been radiocarbon dated. 103,104 Burial 51A dates to around 9,595–9,080 years ago, Burial 83 dates to around 9,030–8,460 years ago, while Burial 45 dates to 8,680–8,375 yeara ago. Based on these results, Burial 51A belongs to the end of the Middle Mesolithic or beginning of the Late Mesolithic in the Iron Gates, while Burials 45 and 83 can be assigned to the Late Mesolithic. Burials U21, H53, U62, U69 and U64 all come from a multiple burial with a vertical stratification of burial remains found in Trench 3.” ref
“U21 is a disarticulated child skull found in a secondary burial position on top of the burial sequence and was possibly removed from a primary burial containing the remains of a child of the same age found laid atop of primary burial H63 within a stack of burials at this location. H53 is the last primary burial that caps the sequence of burials and was placed in extended supine position parallel with the Danube with the head pointing to the upstream direction of the river. U62 and U69 were two neonate burials found one on top of the other interred through the remains of a primary disturbed headless burial H63 belonging to an adult female.” ref
“These two neonates as well as other burials in this sequence apart from the last burial, individual marked as H53, were placed in extended supine positions parallel with the Danube with the head pointing to the downstream direction of the river. The analyzed disarticulated remains marked as U64 were found in the burial fill of primary burial H63 and probably come from partially preserved primary disturbed adult male burial H81, which were disturbed by the interment of H63. If this assumption about the connection between the disarticulated remains in the infill of H63 and the undisturbed remains of H81 were true, U64 dates to the Late Mesolithic of the mid-6th millennium BCE based on a direct date for H81 and are several centuries older than the upper part of the burial sequences with burials U21, H53, H63, U62 and U69, which all can be dated to the Mesolithic-Neolithic transition period at the end of the 7th millennium BCE.” ref
“Burial H232 was found in the same trench as the previously described burial sequence but as a single burial one meter to the south of the burial sequence and was placed directly on top of a cremation pit containing human remains, charcoal, and burnt artifacts. Burials H267, H317, and H327 were found in Trenches 3 and 1 as single burials to the west of the described burial sequence all three placed as extended supine inhumations parallel with the Danube and with the head pointing in the downstream direction.” ref
The Iron Gates / Danube Gorges
“Six important sites are Hajdučka Vodenica, Lepinski Vir, Ostrovul Corbului, Padina, Schela Cladovei and Vlasac situated in that part of the Lower Danube Valley that forms the modern political border between Romania and Serbia, known archaeologically as the Iron Gates or Danube Gorges region. Here, a large series of Mesolithic and Early Neolithic sites. The Iron Gates reach of the Danube falls naturally into two contrasting physiographic zones – the 80 miles long Iron Gates Gorges (sometimes referred to as the “Danube Gorges”) where the river cuts through the Carpathian Mountain range, and the 50 miles long “Downstream Area” of more moderate relief where the Danube enters the Wallachian Plain. The Iron Gates region has a more-or-less continuous record of Stone Age settlement from around 14,700–7,500 years ago, and over 400 Mesolithic and Early Neolithic burials have been recorded from 15 sites.” ref
“At 11,500/9,200–8,000 years ago the Lepenski Vir site is a series of Mesolithic villages located on the Danube River, on the Serbian bank of the Iron Gates Gorge. This Iron Gates culture of the Balkans involves one large site with around ten satellite villages.” ref, ref
“Lepenski Vir is located on the right bank of the Danube in eastern Serbia, within the Iron Gates gorge. The main site consists of several archeological phases starting with Proto-Lepenski Vir, then Lepenski Vir Ia-e, Lepenski Vir II and Lepenski Vir III, whose occupation spanned from 1,500 to 2,000 years, from the Mesolithic to the Neolithic period, when it was succeeded by the Neolithic Starčevo culture and Vinča culture both around 85 miles upstream on the Danube from Lepenski Vir. A number of satellite villages belonging to the Lepenski Vir culture and time period were discovered in the surrounding area. These additional sites include Hajdučka Vodenica, Padina, Vlasac, Ikaona, Kladovska Skela, and others. Found artifacts include tools made from stone and bones, the remains of houses, and numerous sacral objects including unique stone sculptures.” ref
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Starčevo–Körös–Criş culture (8,200-6,500 years ago)
“The village of Starčevo, the type site, is located on the north bank of the Danube in Serbia (Vojvodina province), opposite Belgrade. It represents the earliest settled farming society in the area, although hunting and gathering still provided a significant portion of the inhabitants’ diet.
Parallel and closely related cultures also include the Karanovo culture in Bulgaria, Criş in Romania and the pre-Sesklo in Greece. The Starčevo culture covered sizable area that included most of present-day Serbia and Montenegro, as well as parts of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Hungary, Republic of Macedonia and Romania.” ref
“The human remains of Starčevo culture were found three different Y haplogroups: H2, which is common in Dravidian speakin people of India, Pakistan, and Romania, G2a2a1 and G2a2b2b1a, which are common in the Caucasus and Iran. Also, there were found four different mtDNA lineages: T1a, N1a1a1, K1a4, and W5. All male and female lineages correspond to those that were found in European Neolithic farmers.” ref
- “Encompasses various Early Neolithic archeological cultures from the Balkans, including those of Anzabegovo, Chavdar, Conevo, Criș, Dudești-Cernica, Karanovo, Kőrös, Kremikovci, Ovtcharovo, Porodin, Starčevo, and Tsonevo. It is commonly known simply under the appellation of Starčevo culture.” ref
- “Represents the advance of Early Neolithic farmers from Anatolia/Turkey to south-east Europe, including present-day Bulgaria, Macedonia, Kosovo, Montenegro, Serbia, Bosnia, northern Croatia, south-west Hungary, and Romania. The Starčevo–Kőrös–Criș culture is the precursor of the Alföld Linear Pottery, the LBK culture, and the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture – in other words, all the Early Neolithic cultures from northern France to western Ukraine.” ref
- “Pottery types varied between regional groups, and could be painted in white-on-red and dark-on-red as in the Starčevo culture around Serbia, or be unpainted as in the Körös culture in Hungary. Ceramic vessels were typically decorated with net patterns, spirals, garlands, floral motives, ridges, and finger imprints. Anthropomorphic and zoomorphic representations of goats and deer were common.” ref
- “Very few graves were found in the Starčevo culture, and those were generally single graves. Most burials identified belonged to women or children, who were placed in the graves in a crouched position, lying on the right or the left side. They were inhumed under the floors of personal residences, a practice that continued until 4000 BCE. Graves rarely contained goods. When they did, it was pottery, grinding stones, flint tools or jewelry.” ref
- “The Neolithic lifestyle was brought to Europe by Anatolian/Turkish farmers – represented by Y-haplogroup G2a. For the first 1,700 years of agriculture in the Balkans, those Near Eastern farmers did not intermingle much with Mesolithic European hunter-gatherers in the Balkans. The few Mesolithic Balkanic lineages that may have been assimilated by farmers would have belonged to Y-haplogroup I2 and mt-haplogroups HV0 and V, and possibly J1c, J2a1, K1c, and T2. Since the Balkans were relatively depopulated in the Mesolithic, it is likely that these assimilations took place in north-west Anatolia/Turkey, where European hunter-gatherers had migrated.” ref
- Ancient DNA shows that Starčevo people had fair skin, brown eyes, and dark hair, in contrast to Mesolithic Europeans who had darker skin, dark hair, but blue eyes. Both groups were lactose intolerant.” ref
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Turdaș–Vinča culture (7,700–6,500 years ago)
“Farming technology first introduced to the region during the First Temperate Neolithic was developed further by the Vinča culture, fuelling a population boom and producing some of the largest settlements in prehistoric Europe. These settlements maintained a high degree of cultural uniformity through the long-distance exchange of ritual items but were probably not politically unified. Various styles of zoomorphic and anthropomorphic figurines are hallmarks of the culture, as are the Vinča symbols, which some conjecture to be the earliest form of proto-writing. Although not conventionally considered part of the Chalcolithic or “Copper Age”, the Vinča culture provides the earliest known example of copper metallurgy.” ref
“The Vinča culture occupied a region of southeastern Europe (i.e. the Balkans) corresponding mainly to modern-day Serbia (with Kosovo), but also parts of Romania, Bulgaria, Bosnia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Greece. This region had already been settled by farming societies of the First Temperate Neolithic, but during the Vinča period sustained population growth led to an unprecedented level of settlement size and density along with the population of areas that were bypassed by earlier settlers. And DNA of many belonged to the paternal haplogroup H, that is common in Dravidian speaking people in India, Pakistan, and Romania. Haplogroup G-M201 was also found frequently.” ref
“General plan of the Lepenski Vir I habitations, showing house locations “L”, as well as radiocarbon dates of some houses based on charcoal samples. After Radovanović, 1996, with acknowledgement to Boric 1999 and Bailey 2000. The radiocarbon ages of houses 36, 37 and 54 are weighted means of several measurements. The locations and ages of two Lepenski Vir II houses, IX and XXXII, are also shown. From: Bonsall et al, 2000, ‘Stable Isotopes, Radiocarbon and the Mesolithic-Neolithic Transition in the Iron Gates’, Documenta Praehistorica XXVII.” ref
“Lepenski Vir gives us a rare opportunity to observe the gradual transition from the huntergatherer way of life of early humans to the agricultural economy of the Neolithic.Archaeological findings in the surrounding area show evidence of temporary settlements, probably built for the purpose of hunting and gathering of food or raw materials. This suggests a complex semi-nomadic economy with managed exploitation of resources in the area not immediately surrounding the village, something remarkable for the traditional view of Mesolithic people of Europe.” ref
“More complexity in an economy leads to professional specialization and thus to social differentiation. This is clearly evident in the layout of the Lepenski Vir Ia-e settlement. The village is well planned. All houses are built according to one complex geometric pattern. These remains of houses constitute the distinct Lepenski Vir architecture, one of the important achievements of this culture. The main layout of the village is clearly visible.” ref
“The dead were buried outside the village in an elaborate cemetery. The only exceptions were apparently a few notable elders who were buried behind the fireplaces in houses, according to a religious ritual. The complex social structure was dominated by a religion which probably served as a binding force for the community and a means of coordination of activity for its members. Numerous sacral objects that were discovered in this layer support this theory. The most remarkable examples are piscine sculptures, unique to the Lepenski Vir culture, which represent one of the first examples of monumental sacral art on European soil.” ref
There was at least three phases seen at Lepenski Vir; the first two are what’s left of a complex foraging society; and Phase III represents a farming community.
“Houses in Lepenski Vir, throughout Phase I and II occupations, are laid out in a strict parallelepiped plan, and each village, each collection of houses is arranged in a fan shape across the face of the sandy terrace. Several of the houses held altars and sculptures, sculpted out of the sandstone rock. Evidence seems to indicate that the last function of the houses at Lepenski Vir was as a burial site for a single individual. It’s clear that the Danube flooded the site regularly, perhaps as much as twice a year, making permanent residence impossible; but that residence resumed after the floods is certain. ” ref
“Many of the stone sculptures are monumental in size; some, found in front of houses at Lepenski Vir, are quite distinctive, combining human and fish characteristics. Other artifacts found in and around the site include a vast array of decorated and undecorated artifacts, such as miniature stone axes and figurines, with lesser amounts of bone and shell. And at the same time as foragers and fishers lived at Lepenski Vir, early farming communities sprang up around it, known as the Starcevo-Cris culture, who exchanged pottery and food with the inhabitants of Lepenski Vir.” ref
“The Starčevo culture, sometimes included within a larger grouping known as the Starčevo–Körös–Criş culture of Southeastern Europe, around 8,200- 6,500 years ago located on the north bank of the Danube in Serbia. It represents the earliest settled farming society in the area, although hunting and gathering still provided a significant portion of the inhabitants’ diet. Parallel and closely related cultures also include the Karanovo culture in Bulgaria, Criş in Romania and the pre-Sesklo in Greece. The Körös is a similar culture in Hungary named after the River Körös with a closely related culture. In human remains of Starčevo culture were three different Y haplogroups: H2, G2a2a1 and G2a2b2b1a. Also there were found four different mtDNA lineages: T1a, N1a1a1, K1a4 and W5. All male and female lineages correspond to those that were found in European Neolithic farmers.” ref
“Researchers believe that over time Lepenski Vir evolved from a small foraging settlement to the ritual center for the farming communities in the area–into a place where the past was revered and the old ways followed. The geography of Lepenski Vir may have played an enormous part in the ritual significance of the village. Across the Danube from the site is the trapezoidal mountain Treskavek, whose shape is repeated in the floor plans of the houses; and in the Danube in front of the site is a large whirlpool, the image of which is repeatedly carved into many of the stone sculptures. Like Catal Hoyuk in Turkey, which is dated to roughly the same period, the site of Lepenski Vir provides us with a glimpse into Mesolithic culture and society, into ritual patterns and gender relationships, into the transformation of foraging societies into agricultural societies, and into resistance to that change.” ref
“This burial is from the early Mesolithic stage which is proto-Lepenski Vir. Whereas, the general Lepenski Vir, located in Serbia, Mesolithic Iron Gates culture of the Balkans. Around 11,500/9,200–8,000 years ago. It is a grave discovered in the south-eastern part of the settlement of Proto-Lepenski Vir. The shape of this grave, as well as the position of the skeleton, is quite exceptional. The shallow grave pit has approximately the same trapezoidal form as the foundations of the houses of Lepenski Vir I and has the same orientation as the buildings of that settlement.” ref, ref, ref, ref
“A particularly important hunter-gatherer population that we report is from the Iron Gates region that straddles the border of present-day Romania and Serbia. This population (Iron_Gates_HG) is represented in our study by 40 individuals from five sites. Modeling Iron Gates hunter-gatherers as a mixture of WHG and EHG (Supplementary Table 3) shows that they are intermediate between WHG (~85%) and EHG (~15%). However, this qpAdm model 244 does not fit well (p=0.0003, Supplementary table 3) and the Iron Gates hunter-gatherers carry mitochondrial haplogroup K1 (7/40) as well as other subclades of haplogroups U (32/40) and H (1/40). This contrasts with WHG, EHG and Scandinavian hunter-gatherers who almost all carry haplogroups U5 or U2. One interpretation is that the Iron Gates hunter-gatherers have ancestry that is not present in either WHG or EHG. Possible scenarios include genetic contact between the ancestors of the Iron Gates population and Anatolia, or that the Iron Gates population is related to the source population from which the WHG split during a reexpansion into Europe from the Southeast after the Last Glacial Maximum. A notable finding from the Iron Gates concerns the four individuals from the site of Lepenski Vir, two of whom (I4665 & I5405, 8,200-7,600 years ago), have entirely NW Anatolian Neolithicrelated ancestry. Strontium and Nitrogen isotope data indicate that both these individuals were migrants from outside the Iron Gates, and ate a primarily terrestrial diet. A third individual (I4666, 8,070 years ago) has a mixture of NW Anatolian Neolithic-related and hunter-gatherer-related ancestry and ate a primarily aquatic diet, while a fourth, probably earlier, individual (I5407) had entirely hunter-gatherer-related ancestry. We also identify one individual from Padina (I5232), dated to 7,950 years ago that had a mixture of NW Anatolian Neolithic-related and hunter-gatherer-related ancestry. These results demonstrate that the Iron Gates was a region of interaction between groups distinct in both ancestry and subsistence strategy.” ref
Burial practices in the Iron Gates Mesolithic
“Some of the best evidence in Europe for Mesolithic burial practices is found at sites in the Iron Gates section of the Lower Danube Valley. Burials dating to the Mesolithic and Early Neolithic (c. 12,500-5500 cal BC) have been recorded from at least 15 sites, four of which – Lepenski Vir, Padina, Schela Cladovei and Vlasac – each contained large numbers of graves, with evidence for the existence of formal disposal areas or ‘cemeteries’. The burials encompass a range of mortuary practices, including single inhumation in various body positions, multiple inhumation, cremation and excarnation.” ref
Treatment of the dead Lepenski Vir culture
“We know of graves, partly in large numbers, from many settlements of the Lepenski Vir culture (cf. for the following Radovanović 1996, 160-224 and Srejović/Letica 1978). E. g., in Vlasac 384 burials were found, in Lepenski Vir 146 and in Padina still 75. Icoana yielded three graves, Hajdučka Vodenica 30, Schela Cladovei 33, Ostrovul Corbului four. Flint and quartz artefacts, bone objects (awls, projectiles), antler objects, boar tusks, hammer stones, stone axes, necklaces made from snails’ shells and decorated objects made from various materials were used as grave goods. Besides, there is evidence for the scattering of ochre and graphite, and some of the dead are covered all over with teeth of Cyprinidae (maybe worn on the clothes), fish bones, animal bones (especially dogs’ mandibulae; horns and antlers), seeds, stones and human bones (mainly mandibulae).” ref
“In the Iron Gates, inhumations as well as secondary burials and cremations were found. Secondary burials are characterized by the exposure of the deceased’s body to the air before it was buried. It is unclear whether further treatment was administered. Sometimes it seems as if the skull or postcranial body parts were removed in such burials. We know of individuals lying straight on their backs and individuals lying in crouched position on their side. There are even burials in a sitting position. Interestingly, the dead are oriented either parallel to the river Danube or perpendicular to it. An orientation according to a special direction was uncommon. Usually, one person was laid down in a burial pit, however, there are also two or more individuals in one grave. The graves were dug on the settlement terraces. Sometimes they are surrounded by stones, but every once in a while not even a pit was dug but people would use natural depressions in the soil. Sometimes the deceased were covered with a stone paving. Mostly the dead are buried within the settlements. They can be found between the houses, often, however, inside the buildings, under the floors, partly with reference to the hearth or to an “altar.” ref
“Lepenski Vir: burial 69 – dorsal decubitus inhumation in the ‘butterfly’ posture.” ref
“Child Burial 97 underneath the floor of House 31, Lepenski Vir.” ref
“Ostrovul Corbului: burial M25, described as in a sitting position, Lepenski Vir.” ref
“Some dead people were found to be buried beneath the houses, and under the floors which had been exceptionally well preserved. Although these were believed to have been prominent people such as elders, the skeletons of children were also found. It is therefore unknown what kind of formula was used to decide who ought to be buried beneath the house or in the cemetery. It is, however, believed that the culture practiced a religious cult of heads, evidenced by the sculptures only being of heads. From this perspective, one can therefore also argue that ritual burials may have involved the removal of the skull from the dead person’s head to bury it separately from the body.” ref
“These skulls (males) would be buried amidst crushed stones and formed the base upon which houses would be later built. The skeleton that has been preserved best is the one which was excavated from house 69 and was dug shallow. This skull has been found to originate from the period of Vir I or the Proto-Vir. The skeletons of the people buried under the floor also show that the bodies were placed in such a way that the widening parts of the houses’ central installation are above the genitals. This has led to the conclusion by the researchers that it could be a symbol of birth, irrespective of the gender of the body buried. Ceramic vessels have also been found which were filled with ash, this may have had some ritual meaning.” ref
The Lepenski Vir Culture Development
“The late Lepenski Vir (8,300–8,000 years ago) development was the development of the Trapezoidal buildings and monumental sculpture. The main site consists of several archeological phases starting with Proto-Lepenski Vir, then Lepenski Vir Ia-e, Lepenski Vir II and Lepenski Vir III, whose occupation spanned from 1,500 to 2,000 years, from the Mesolithic to the Neolithic period, when it was succeeded by the Neolithic Vinča culture and Starčevo culture, both upstream the Danube, 135 km (84 mi) and 139 km (86 mi) from Lepenski Vir, respectively. A number of satellite villages belonging to the same culture and time period were discovered in the surrounding area. These additional sites include Hajdučka Vodenica, Padina, Vlasac, Ikaona, Kladovska Skela and others. Found artifacts include tools made from stone and bones, the remains of houses, and numerous sacral objects including unique stone sculptures.” ref
“Lepenski Vir was the settlement of first Danubian settled farmers who were “the Children of the Sun.” Set on terraces on both sides of the Danube we find the settlements of the Lepenski Vir culture. On the Romanian side, the important sites are Ostrovul Mare, Ostrovul Corbului, Schela Cladovei, Ostrovul Banului, Răzvrata, Icoana, Veterani-terrace and Veterani Cave, Climente I and II, Băile Herculane, Cuina Turcului, Vodneac, Ilişova, Izlaz, Sviniţa, Vîrtop, Alibeg and Privod. On the Serbian side, we find the eponymous place Lepenski Vir and furthermore, Padina, Stubica, Vlasac, Hajdučka Vodenica, Velesnica and Kula.” ref
“Lepenski Vir is the Mesolithic site some 15 km north from the city of Donji Milanovac, which is an around 8000-year-old Mesolithic settlement of the Lepenski Vir after the ice had begun to melt from the glaciers which covered so much of the Northern Hemisphere, and the time when the climate became significantly warmer. The mild climate on terraces of the Danube attracted inhabitants of Lepenski Vir. People who lived for many generations in the settlement of Lepenski Vir used to build unusual and unique trapezoid-shaped huts whose entrance was turned towards the Danube with rectangular fireplaces built of stone blocks and small sanctuaries within their homes. The central position towards the East was given to the fire place and the fire, that emphasized connection with formation of warmth and rising of the Sun. House meant stability and security while the bones of ancestors enhanced this stability and made the connection with the/our history.” ref
“The Danube Valley civilization is one of the oldest civilizations known in Europe. It existed from between 7,500-5,500 years ago in the Balkans and covered a vast area, in what is now Northern Greece to Slovakia (South to North), and Croatia to Romania (West to East). During the height of the Danube Valley civilization, it played an important role in south-eastern Europe through the development of copper tools, a writing system, advanced architecture, including two storey houses, and the construction of furniture, such as chairs and tables, all of which occurred while most of Europe was in the middle of the Stone Age. They developed skills such as spinning, weaving, leather processing, clothes manufacturing, and manipulated wood, clay and stone and they invented the wheel. They had an economic, religious and social structure.” ref
“The archaeological record of inscribed artifacts from the Neolithic and Copper Age of Southeastern Europe is persistently cheapened by many archaeologists as bearing “pre-writing” signs, “potter’s/owner’s marks”, “magic-religious symbols”, or generic “signs,” despite the presence of features that clearly argue against such suppositions. In its comprehensive meaning, the term “Danube script” indicates the original successful experiment with writing technology of the populations making up the Danube civilization and not a ”precursor” to writing, or “pre-writing,” as in some have described it. The signs utilized by the Turdaş culture, “Turdaş script” developed as a light regional variant under the framework of the Danube script. Inscribed finds and inscriptions from the Precucuteni-Cucuteni-Ariuşd-Trypillia cultural complex, evidencing the presence of a late script related to the Danube script” ref
“In Southeastern Europe, the experiment with literacy started around 7,900-7,800 years ago with the Starčevo-Criş (Körös) IB/IC and Karanovo I horizon, some two thousand years earlier than any other known writing. It is called the Danube script because it originally appeared in the central Balkan area and had an indigenous development. Ars scribendi quickly spread along the Danube River and tributaries northward to the Hungarian Great plain, westward to the Adriatic coast, southward down to Macedonia and Thessaly, and eastward to Ukraine. The Danube script flourished up to about 5,500-5,300 years ago, when an economic-social upheaval connected to an ecological crisis took place: according to some, there was an intrusion of new populations, whilst others have hypothesized the emergence of new elites. At that time, the Danube script was eclipsed and was later to be lost. The region where the Danube Civilization and the Danube script flourished. The Danube script (framed in orange) was utilized in the core area of the Danube Civilization (framed in red).” ref
“The over-arching terminology of “Danube script” includes what has been called the “Vinča signs” and the“Vinča script” or the Vinča symbols, sometimes called the Danube script, Vinča signs, Vinča script, Vinča–Turdaș script, Old European script, etc. The connection of the inscribed signs with the Vinča culture that flourished in the Developed/Middle Neolithic within the core area of the great Danube basin has a reasonably long history. However, it categorizes only a specific period of the Neolithic and Copper Age timeframe, has provincial boundaries, and does not evoke a clear geographical region. The experiment with literacy has to be extended in time (from Early Neolithic to Late Copper Age)and in space (embracing the whole Southeastern Europe).” ref, ref
“Most of the inscriptions are on pottery, with the remainder appearing on ceramic spindle whorls, figurines, and a small collection of other objects. The symbols themselves consist of a variety of abstract and representative pictograms, including zoomorphic (animal-like) representations, combs or brush patterns and abstract symbols such as swastikas, crosses and chevrons. Over 85% of the inscriptions consist of a single symbol. Other objects include groups of symbols, of which some are arranged in no particularly obvious pattern, with the result that neither the order nor the direction of the signs in these groups is readily determinable.” ref
“One of the more intriguing and hotly debated aspects of the Danube Valley civilization is their supposed written language. While some archaeologists have maintained that the ‘writing’ is actually just a series of geometric figures and symbols, others have maintained that it has the features of a true writing system. If this theory is correct, it would make the script the oldest written language ever found, predating the Sumerian writings in Mesopotamia, and possibly even the Dispilio Tablet, which has been dated 5260 BC. Harald Haarmann, a German linguistic and cultural scientist, currently vice-president of the Institute of Archaeomythology, and leading specialist in ancient scripts and ancient languages, firmly supports the view that the Danube script is the oldest writing in the world. The tablets that were found are dated to 5,500 BC, and the glyphs on the tablets, according to Haarmann, are a form of language yet to be deciphered. The symbols, which are also called Vinca symbols, have been found in multiple archaeological sites throughout the Danube Valley areas, inscribed on pottery, figurines, spindles and other clay artifacts.” ref
“The Dispilio tablet was found in a Neolithic lake settlement in Northern Greece near the city of Kastoria. A group of people used to occupy the settlement 7,000 to 8,000 years ago. The Dispilio tablet was one of many artifacts that were found in the area, however, the importance of the table lies in the fact that it has an unknown written text on it that goes back further than 5,000 BC. The wooden tablet was dated using the C12 method to have been made in 5260 BC, making it significantly older than the writing system used by the Sumerians. The text on the tablet includes a type of engraved writing which probably consists of a form of writing that pre-existed Linear B writing used by the Mycenaean Greeks. As well as the tablet, many other ceramic pieces were found that also have the same type of writing on them. Professor Xourmouziadis has suggested that this type of writing, which has not yet been deciphered, could be any form of communication including symbols representing the counting of possessions.” ref
“The Kish tablet, a limestone tablet from Kish with pictographic, early cuneiform, writing, 5,500 years ago found at Tell al-Uhaymir, Babil Governorate, Iraq – the site of the ancient Sumerian city of Kish. The cuneiform script was developed from pictographic proto-writing in the late 4th millennium BC, stemming from the near eastern token system used for accounting. These tokens were in use from the 9th millennium BC and remained in occasional use even late in the 2nd millennium BC. It has been suggested that the token shapes were the original basis for some of the Sumerian pictographs. Mesopotamia’s “proto-literate” period spans roughly the 35th to 32nd centuries. The first documents unequivocally are written in Sumerian date to the5,100 years ago at Jemdet Nasr.” ref, ref
“Although it is generally agreed that small clay objects may have functioned in prehistory as accounting devices, there exists in Mesopotamia no sequence of evidence from their extensive 8th/7th millennium occurrence to the period in which writing developed, sometime in the 4th millennium. Indeed such objects are not common on 6th/5th millennium sites, a time when ‘potters’ marks’, another plausible precursor of writing, are found in both Mesopotamia and Iran. Nor, until the recent excavation of Abada, was there actual evidence for the close association of different types of small clay object within any ‘system’. Abada now provides such evidence, though only for a relatively short time span in the 5th millennium. Recent excavations at Tell Brak, in northeastern Syria, have also added a new dimension to the origins of recording systems, in the discovery of two pictographic tablets which reflect either an independent North Mesopotamian tradition or a very early stage of the development attested at Warka.” ref
“Proto-cuneiform tablet, Jemdet Nasr period, around 5,100-4,900 years ago from a site related to Tell Jemdet Nasr in Iraq‘s Babil Governorate Region a local development out of the preceding Uruk period and continues into the Early Dynastic I period of southern Mesopotamia.” ref, ref
“The term Danubian culture was the first agrarian society in central and eastern Europe. It covers the Linear Pottery culture (Linearbandkeramik, LBK), stroked pottery and Rössen cultures. The beginning of the Linear Pottery culture dates to around 5500 BC. It appears to have spread westwards along the valley of the river Danube and interacted with the cultures of Atlantic Europewhen they reached the Paris Basin. Danubian I peoples cleared forests and cultivated fertile loesssoils from the Balkans to the Low Countries and the Paris Basin. They made LBK pottery and kept domesticated cows, pigs, dogs, sheep and goats. The diagnostic tool of the culture is the Shoe-last celt, a kind of long thin stone adze which was used to fell trees and sometimes as a weapon, evidenced by the skulls found at Talheim, Neckar in Germany and Schletz in Austria.” ref
“Settlements consisted of longhouses. They also imported spondylus shells from the Mediterranean. A second wave of the culture, which used painted pottery with Asiatic influences, superseded the first phase starting around 4500 BC. This was followed by a third wave which used stroke-ornamented ware. Danubian sites include those at Bylany in Bohemia and Köln-Lindenthalin Germany.” ref
“During the height of the Danube Valley civilization, it played an important role in south-eastern Europe through the development of copper tools, a writing system, advanced architecture, including two storey houses, and the construction of furniture, such as chairs and tables, all of which occurred while most of Europe was in the middle of the Stone Age. They developed
Top 5 Obscure Ancient Civilizations
“This video discusses the Vinca Culture, Caral Supe, Happan/Indus Valley Civilization, Land of Punt, and Pre-dynastic ancient Egypt, specifically the Naqadan and Badarian cultures.” ref
Animism: Respecting the Living World by Graham Harvey
“How have human cultures engaged with and thought about animals, plants, rocks, clouds, and other elements in their natural surroundings? Do animals and other natural objects have a spirit or soul? What is their relationship to humans? In this new study, Graham Harvey explores current and past animistic beliefs and practices of Native Americans, Maori, Aboriginal Australians, and eco-pagans. He considers the varieties of animism found in these cultures as well as their shared desire to live respectfully within larger natural communities. Drawing on his extensive casework, Harvey also considers the linguistic, performative, ecological, and activist implications of these different animisms.” ref
My thoughts on Religion Evolution with external links for more info:
- (Pre-Animism Africa mainly, but also Europe, and Asia at least 300,000 years ago), (Pre-Animism – Oxford Dictionaries)
- (Animism Africa around 100,000 years ago), (Animism – Britannica.com)
- (Totemism Europe around 50,000 years ago), (Totemism – Anthropology)
- (Shamanism Siberia around 30,000 years ago), (Shamanism – Britannica.com)
- (Paganism Turkey around 12,000 years ago), (Paganism – BBC Religion)
- (Progressed Organized Religion “Institutional Religion” Egypt around 5,000 years ago), (Ancient Egyptian Religion – Britannica.com)
- (CURRENT “World” RELIGIONS after 4,000 years ago) (Origin of Major Religions – Sacred Texts)
- (Early Atheistic Doubting at least by 2,600 years ago) (History of Atheism – Wikipedia)
“Religion is an Evolved Product” and Yes, Religion is Like Fear Given Wings…
Atheists talk about gods and religions for the same reason doctors talk about cancer, they are looking for a cure, or a firefighter talks about fires because they burn people and they care to stop them. We atheists too often feel a need to help the victims of mental slavery, held in the bondage that is the false beliefs of gods and the conspiracy theories of reality found in religions.
Understanding Religion Evolution:
- Pre-Animism (at least 300,000 years ago)
- Animism (Africa: 100,000 years ago)
- Totemism (Europe: 50,000 years ago)
- Shamanism (Siberia: 30,000 years ago)
- Paganism (Turkey: 12,000 years ago)
- Progressed organized religion (Egypt: 5,000 years ago), (Egypt, the First Dynasty 5,150 years ago)
- CURRENT “World” RELIGIONS (after 4,000 years ago)
- Early Atheistic Doubting (at least by 2,600 years ago)
“An Archaeological/Anthropological Understanding of Religion Evolution”
It seems ancient peoples had to survived amazing threats in a “dangerous universe (by superstition perceived as good and evil),” and human “immorality or imperfection of the soul” which was thought to affect the still living, leading to ancestor worship. This ancestor worship presumably led to the belief in supernatural beings, and then some of these were turned into the belief in gods. This feeble myth called gods were just a human conceived “made from nothing into something over and over, changing, again and again, taking on more as they evolve, all the while they are thought to be special,” but it is just supernatural animistic spirit-belief perceived as sacred.
Quick Evolution of Religion?
Pre-Animism (at least 300,000 years ago) pre-religion is a beginning that evolves into later Animism. So, Religion as we think of it, to me, all starts in a general way with Animism (Africa: 100,000 years ago) (theoretical belief in supernatural powers/spirits), then this is physically expressed in or with Totemism (Europe: 50,000 years ago) (theoretical belief in mythical relationship with powers/spirits through a totem item), which then enlists a full-time specific person to do this worship and believed interacting Shamanism (Siberia/Russia: 30,000 years ago) (theoretical belief in access and influence with spirits through ritual), and then there is the further employment of myths and gods added to all the above giving you Paganism (Turkey: 12,000 years ago) (often a lot more nature-based than most current top world religions, thus hinting to their close link to more ancient religious thinking it stems from). My hypothesis is expressed with an explanation of the building of a theatrical house (modern religions development). Progressed organized religion (Egypt: 5,000 years ago) with CURRENT “World” RELIGIONS (after 4,000 years ago).
Historically, in large city-state societies (such as Egypt or Iraq) starting around 5,000 years ago culminated to make religion something kind of new, a sociocultural-governmental-religious monarchy, where all or at least many of the people of such large city-state societies seem familiar with and committed to the existence of “religion” as the integrated life identity package of control dynamics with a fixed closed magical doctrine, but this juggernaut integrated religion identity package of Dogmatic-Propaganda certainly did not exist or if developed to an extent it was highly limited in most smaller prehistoric societies as they seem to lack most of the strong control dynamics with a fixed closed magical doctrine (magical beliefs could be at times be added or removed). Many people just want to see developed religious dynamics everywhere even if it is not. Instead, all that is found is largely fragments until the domestication of religion.
Religions, as we think of them today, are a new fad, even if they go back to around 6,000 years in the timeline of human existence, this amounts to almost nothing when seen in the long slow evolution of religion at least around 70,000 years ago with one of the oldest ritual worship. Stone Snake of South Africa: “first human worship” 70,000 years ago. This message of how religion and gods among them are clearly a man-made thing that was developed slowly as it was invented and then implemented peace by peace discrediting them all. Which seems to be a simple point some are just not grasping how devastating to any claims of truth when we can see the lie clearly in the archeological sites.
I wish people fought as hard for the actual values as they fight for the group/clan names political or otherwise they think support values. Every amount spent on war is theft to children in need of food or the homeless kept from shelter.
Here are several of my blog posts on history:
- To Find Truth You Must First Look
- (Magdalenian/Iberomaurusian) Connections to the First Paganists of the early Neolithic Near East Dating from around 17,000 to 12,000 Years Ago
- Natufians: an Ancient People at the Origins of Agriculture and Sedentary Life
- Possible Clan Leader/Special “MALE” Ancestor Totem Poles At Least 13,500 years ago?
- Jewish People with DNA at least 13,200 years old, Judaism, and the Origins of Some of its Ideas
- Baltic Reindeer Hunters: Swiderian, Lyngby, Ahrensburgian, and Krasnosillya cultures 12,020 to 11,020 years ago are evidence of powerful migratory waves during the last 13,000 years and a genetic link to Saami and the Finno-Ugric peoples.
- The Rise of Inequality: patriarchy and state hierarchy inequality
- Fertile Crescent 12,500 – 9,500 Years Ago: fertility and death cult belief system?
- 12,400 – 11,700 Years Ago – Kortik Tepe (Turkey) Pre/early-Agriculture Cultic Ritualism
- Ritualistic Bird Symbolism at Gobekli Tepe and its “Ancestor Cult”
- Male-Homosexual (female-like) / Trans-woman (female) Seated Figurine from Gobekli Tepe
- Could a 12,000-year-old Bull Geoglyph at Göbekli Tepe relate to older Bull and Female Art 25,000 years ago and Later Goddess and the Bull cults like Catal Huyuk?
- Sedentism and the Creation of goddesses around 12,000 years ago as well as male gods after 7,000 years ago.
- Alcohol, where Agriculture and Religion Become one? Such as Gobekli Tepe’s Ritualistic use of Grain as Food and Ritual Drink
- Neolithic Ritual Sites with T-Pillars and other Cultic Pillars
- Paganism: Goddesses around 12,000 years ago then Male Gods after 7,000 years ago
- First Patriarchy: Split of Women’s Status around 12,000 years ago & First Hierarchy: fall of Women’s Status around 5,000 years ago.
- Natufians: an Ancient People at the Origins of Agriculture and Sedentary Life
- J DNA and the Spread of Agricultural Religion (paganism)
- Paganism: an approximately 12,000-year-old belief system
- Paganism 12,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Pre-Capitalism)
- Shaman burial in Israel 12,000 years ago and the Shamanism Phenomena
- Need to Mythicized: gods and goddesses
- 12,000 – 7,000 Years Ago – Paleo-Indian Culture (The Americas)
- 12,000 – 2,000 Years Ago – Indigenous-Scandinavians (Nordic)
- Norse did not wear helmets with horns?
- Pre-Pottery Neolithic Skull Cult around 11,500 to 8,400 Years Ago?
- 10,400 – 10,100 Years Ago, in Turkey the Nevail Cori Religious Settlement
- 9,000-6,500 Years Old Submerged Pre-Pottery/Pottery Neolithic Ritual Settlements off Israel’s Coast
- Catal Huyuk “first religious designed city” around 9,500 to 7,700 years ago (Turkey)
- Cultic Hunting at Catal Huyuk “first religious designed city”
- Special Items and Art as well as Special Elite Burials at Catal Huyuk
- New Rituals and Violence with the appearance of Pottery and People?
- Haplogroup N and its related Uralic Languages and Cultures
- Ainu people, Sámi people, Native Americans, the Ancient North Eurasians, and Paganistic-Shamanism with Totemism
- Ideas, Technology and People from Turkey, Europe, to China and Back again 9,000 to 5,000 years ago?
- First Pottery of Europe and the Related Cultures
- 9,000 years old Neolithic Artifacts Judean Desert and Hills Israel
- 9,000-7,000 years-old Sex and Death Rituals: Cult Sites in Israel, Jordan, and the Sinai
- 9,000-8500 year old Horned Female shaman Bad Dürrenberg Germany
- Neolithic Jewelry and the Spread of Farming in Europe Emerging out of West Turkey
- 8,600-year-old Tortoise Shells in Neolithic graves in central China have Early Writing and Shamanism
- Swing of the Mace: the rise of Elite, Forced Authority, and Inequality begin to Emerge 8,500 years ago?
- Migrations and Changing Europeans Beginning around 8,000 Years Ago
- My “Steppe-Anatolian-Kurgan hypothesis” 8,000/7,000 years ago
- Around 8,000-year-old Shared Idea of the Mistress of Animals, “Ritual” Motif
- Pre-Columbian Red-Paint (red ochre) Maritime Archaic Culture 8,000-3,000 years ago
- 7,522-6,522 years ago Linear Pottery culture which I think relates to Arcane Capitalism’s origins
- Arcane Capitalism: Primitive socialism, Primitive capital, Private ownership, Means of production, Market capitalism, Class discrimination, and Petite bourgeoisie (smaller capitalists)
- 7,500-4,750 years old Ritualistic Cucuteni-Trypillian culture of Moldova, Romania, and Ukraine
- Roots of a changing early society 7,200-6,700 years ago Jordan and Israel
- Agriculture religion (Paganism) with farming reached Britain between about 7,000 to 6,500 or so years ago and seemingly expressed in things like Western Europe’s Long Barrows
- My Thoughts on Possible Migrations of “R” DNA and Proto-Indo-European?
- “Millet” Spreading from China 7,022 years ago to Europe and related Language may have Spread with it leading to Proto-Indo-European
- Proto-Indo-European (PIE), ancestor of Indo-European languages: DNA, Society, Language, and Mythology
- The Dnieper–Donets culture and Asian varieties of Millet from China to the Black Sea region of Europe by 7,022 years ago
- Kurgan 6,000 years ago/dolmens 7,000 years ago: funeral, ritual, and other?
- 7,020 to 6,020-year-old Proto-Indo-European Homeland of Urheimat or proposed home of their Language and Religion
- Ancient Megaliths: Kurgan, Ziggurat, Pyramid, Menhir, Trilithon, Dolman, Kromlech, and Kromlech of Trilithons
- The Mytheme of Ancient North Eurasian Sacred-Dog belief and similar motifs are found in Indo-European, Native American, and Siberian comparative mythology
- Elite Power Accumulation: Ancient Trade, Tokens, Writing, Wealth, Merchants, and Priest-Kings
- Sacred Mounds, Mountains, Kurgans, and Pyramids may hold deep connections?
- Between 7,000-5,000 Years ago, rise of unequal hierarchy elite, leading to a “birth of the State” or worship of power, strong new sexism, oppression of non-elites, and the fall of Women’s equal status
- Paganism 7,000-5,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Capitalism) (World War 0) Elite & their slaves
- Hell and Underworld mythologies starting maybe as far back as 7,000 to 5,000 years ago with the Proto-Indo-Europeans?
- The First Expression of the Male God around 7,000 years ago?
- White (light complexion skin) Bigotry and Sexism started 7,000 years ago?
- Around 7,000-year-old Shared Idea of the Divine Bird (Tutelary and/or Trickster spirit/deity), “Ritual” Motif
- Nekhbet an Ancient Egyptian Vulture Goddess and Tutelary Deity
- 6,720 to 4,920 years old Ritualistic Hongshan Culture of Inner Mongolia with 5,000-year-old Pyramid Mounds and Temples
- First proto-king in the Balkans, Varna culture around 6,500 years ago?
- 6,500–5,800 years ago in Israel Late Chalcolithic (Copper Age) Period in the Southern Levant Seems to Express Northern Levant Migrations, Cultural and Religious Transfer
- KING OF BEASTS: Master of Animals “Ritual” Motif, around 6,000 years old or older…
- Around 6000-year-old Shared Idea of the Solid Wheel & the Spoked Wheel-Shaped Ritual Motif
- “The Ghassulian Star,” a mysterious 6,000-year-old mural from Jordan; a Proto-Star of Ishtar, Star of Inanna or Star of Venus?
- Religious/Ritual Ideas, including goddesses and gods as well as ritual mounds or pyramids from Northeastern Asia at least 6,000 years old, seemingly filtering to Iran, Iraq, the Mediterranean, Europe, Egypt, and the Americas?
- Maykop (5,720–5,020 years ago) Caucasus region Bronze Age culture-related to Copper Age farmers from the south, influenced by the Ubaid period and Leyla-Tepe culture, as well as influencing the Kura-Araxes culture
- 5-600-year-old Tomb, Mummy, and First Bearded Male Figurine in a Grave
- Kura-Araxes Cultural 5,520 to 4,470 years old DNA traces to the Canaanites, Arabs, and Jews
- Minoan/Cretan (Keftiu) Civilization and Religion around 5,520 to 3,120 years ago
- Evolution Of Science at least by 5,500 years ago
- 5,500 Years old birth of the State, the rise of Hierarchy, and the fall of Women’s status
- “Jiroft culture” 5,100 – 4,200 years ago and the History of Iran
- Stonehenge: Paganistic Burial and Astrological Ritual Complex, England (5,100-3,600 years ago)
- Around 5,000-year-old Shared Idea of the “Tree of Life” Ritual Motif
- Complex rituals for elite, seen from China to Egypt, at least by 5,000 years ago
- Around 5,000 years ago: “Birth of the State” where Religion gets Military Power and Influence
- The Center of the World “Axis Mundi” and/or “Sacred Mountains” Mythology Could Relate to the Altai Mountains, Heart of the Steppe
- Progressed organized religion starts, an approximately 5,000-year-old belief system
- China’s Civilization between 5,000-3,000 years ago, was a time of war and class struggle, violent transition from free clans to a Slave or Elite society
- Origin of Logics is Naturalistic Observation at least by around 5,000 years ago.
- Paganism 5,000 years old: progressed organized religion and the state: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Kings and the Rise of the State)
- Ziggurats (multi-platform temples: 4,900 years old) to Pyramids (multi-platform tombs: 4,700 years old)
- Did a 4,520–4,420-year-old Volcano In Turkey Inspire the Bible God?
- Finland’s Horned Shaman and Pre-Horned-God at least 4,500 years ago?
- 4,000-year-Old Dolmens in Israel: A Connected Dolmen Religious Phenomenon?
- Creation myths: From chaos, Ex nihilo, Earth-diver, Emergence, World egg, and World parent
- Bronze Age “Ritual” connections of the Bell Beaker culture with the Corded Ware/Single Grave culture, which were related to the Yamnaya culture and Proto-Indo-European Languages/Religions
- Low Gods (Earth/ Tutelary deity), High Gods (Sky/Supreme deity), and Moralistic Gods (Deity enforcement/divine order)
- The exchange of people, ideas, and material-culture including, to me, the new god (Sky Father) and goddess (Earth Mother) religion between the Cucuteni-Trypillians and others which is then spread far and wide
- Koryaks: Indigenous People of the Russian Far East and Big Raven myths also found in Tlingit, Haida, Tsimshian, and other Indigenous People of North America
- 42 Principles Of Maat (Egyptian Goddess of the justice) around 4,400 years ago, 2000 Years Before Ten Commandments
- “Happy Easter” Well Happy Eostre/Ishter
- 4,320-3,820 years old “Shimao” (North China) site with Totemistic-Shamanistic Paganism and a Stepped Pyramid
- 4,250 to 3,400 Year old Stonehenge from Russia: Arkaim?
- 4,100-year-old beaker with medicinal & flowering plants in a grave of a woman in Scotland
- Early European Farmer ancestry, Kelif el Boroud people with the Cardial Ware culture, and the Bell Beaker culture Paganists too, spread into North Africa, then to the Canary Islands off West Africa
- Flood Accounts: Gilgamesh epic (4,100 years ago) Noah in Genesis (2,600 years ago)
- Paganism 4,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (First Moralistic gods, then the Origin time of Monotheism)
- When was the beginning: TIMELINE OF CURRENT RELIGIONS, which start around 4,000 years ago.
- Early Religions Thought to Express Proto-Monotheistic Systems around 4,000 years ago
- Kultepe? An archaeological site with a 4,000 years old women’s rights document.
- Single God Religions (Monotheism) = “Man-o-theism” started around 4,000 years ago with the Great Sky Spirit/God Tiān (天)?
- Confucianism’s Tiān (Shangdi god 4,000 years old): Supernaturalism, Pantheism or Theism?
- Yes, Your Male God is Ridiculous
- Mythology, a Lunar Deity is a Goddess or God of the Moon
- Sacred Land, Hills, and Mountains: Sami Mythology (Paganistic Shamanism)
- Horse Worship/Sacrifice: mythical union of Ruling Elite/Kingship and the Horse
- The Amorite/Amurru people’s God Amurru “Lord of the Steppe”, relates to the Origins of the Bible God?
- Bronze Age Exotic Trade Routes Spread Quite Far as well as Spread Religious Ideas with Them
- Sami and the Northern Indigenous Peoples Landscape, Language, and its Connection to Religion
- Prototype of Ancient Analemmatic Sundials around 3,900-3,150 years ago and a Possible Solar Connection to gods?
- Judaism is around 3,450 or 3,250 years old. (“Paleo-Hebrew” 3,000 years ago and Torah 2,500 years ago)
- The Weakening of Ancient Trade and the Strengthening of Religions around 3000 years ago?
- Are you aware that there are religions that worship women gods, explain now religion tears women down?
- Animistic, Totemistic, and Paganistic Superstition Origins of bible god and the bible’s Religion.
- Myths and Folklore: “Trickster gods and goddesses”
- Jews, Judaism, and the Origins of Some of its Ideas
- An Old Branch of Religion Still Giving Fruit: Sacred Trees
- Dating the BIBLE: naming names and telling times (written less than 3,000 years ago, provable to 2,200 years ago)
- Did a Volcano Inspire the bible god?
- Dené–Yeniseian language, Old Copper Complex, and Pre-Columbian Mound Builders?
- No “dinosaurs and humans didn’t exist together just because some think they are in the bible itself”
- Sacred Shit and Sacred Animals?
- Everyone Killed in the Bible Flood? “Nephilim” (giants)?
- Hey, Damien dude, I have a question for you regarding “the bible” Exodus.
- Archaeology Disproves the Bible
- Bible Battle, Just More, Bible Babble
- The Jericho Conquest lie?
- Canaanites and Israelites?
- Accurate Account on how did Christianity Began?
- Let’s talk about Christianity.
- So the 10 commandments isn’t anything to go by either right?
- Misinformed christian
- Debunking Jesus?
- Paulism vs Jesus
- Ok, you seem confused so let’s talk about Buddhism.
- Unacknowledged Buddhism: Gods, Savior, Demons, Rebirth, Heavens, Hells, and Terrorism
- His Foolishness The Dalai Lama
- Yin and Yang is sexist with an ORIGIN around 2,300 years ago?
- I Believe Archaeology, not Myths & Why Not, as the Religious Myths Already Violate Reason!
- Archaeological, Scientific, & Philosophic evidence shows the god myth is man-made nonsense.
- Aquatic Ape Theory/Hypothesis? As Always, Just Pseudoscience.
- Ancient Aliens Conspiracy Theorists are Pseudohistorians
- The Pseudohistoric and Pseudoscientific claims about “Bakoni Ruins” of South Africa
- Why do people think Religion is much more than supernaturalism and superstitionism?
- Religion is an Evolved Product
- Was the Value of Ancient Women Different?
- 1000 to 1100 CE, human sacrifice Cahokia Mounds a pre-Columbian Native American site
- Feminist atheists as far back as the 1800s?
- Promoting Religion as Real is Mentally Harmful to a Flourishing Humanity
- Screw All Religions and Their Toxic lies, they are all fraud
- Forget Religions’ Unfounded Myths, I Have Substantiated “Archaeology Facts.”
- Religion Dispersal throughout the World
- I Hate Religion Just as I Hate all Pseudoscience
- Exposing Scientology, Eckankar, Wicca and Other Nonsense?
- Main deity or religious belief systems
- Quit Trying to Invent Your God From the Scraps of Science.
- Archaeological, Scientific, & Philosophic evidence shows the god myth is man-made nonsense.
- Ancient Alien Conspiracy Theorists: Misunderstanding, Rhetoric, Misinformation, Fabrications, and Lies
- Misinformation, Distortion, and Pseudoscience in Talking with a Christian Creationist
- Judging the Lack of Goodness in Gods, Even the Norse God Odin
- Challenging the Belief in God-like Aliens and Gods in General
- A Challenge to Christian use of Torture Devices?
- Yes, Hinduism is a Religion
- Trump is One of the Most Reactionary Forces of Far-right Christian Extremism
- Was the Bull Head a Symbol of God? Yes!
- Primate Death Rituals
- Christian – “God and Christianity are objectively true”
- Australopithecus afarensis Death Ritual?
- You Claim Global Warming is a Hoax?
- Doubter of Science and Defamer of Atheists?
- I think that sounds like the Bible?
- History of the Antifa (“anti-fascist”) Movements
- Indianapolis Anti-Blasphemy Laws #Free Soheil Rally
- Damien, you repeat the golden rule in so many forms then you say religion is dogmatic?
- Science is a Trustable Methodology whereas Faith is not Trustable at all!
- Was I ever a believer, before I was an atheist?
- Atheists rise in reason
- Mistrust of science?
- Open to Talking About the Definition of ‘God’? But first, we address Faith.
- ‘United Monarchy’ full of splendor and power – Saul, David, and Solomon? Most likely not.
- Is there EXODUS ARCHAEOLOGY? The short answer is “no.”
- Lacking Proof of Bigfoots, Unicorns, and Gods is Just a Lack of Research?
- Religion and Politics: Faith Beliefs vs. Rational Thinking
- Hammer of Truth that lying pig RELIGION: challenged by an archaeologist
- “The Hammer of Truth” -ontology question- What do You Mean by That?
- Navigation of a bad argument: Ad Hominem vs. Attack
- Why is it Often Claimed that Gods have a Gender?
- Why are basically all monotheistic religions ones that have a male god?
- Shifting through the Claims in support of Faith
- Dear Mr. AtHope, The 20th Century is an Indictment of Secularism and a Failed Atheist Century
- An Understanding of the Worldwide Statistics and Dynamics of Terrorist Incidents and Suicide Attacks
- Intoxication and Evolution? Addressing and Assessing the “Stoned Ape” or “Drunken Monkey” Theories as Catalysts in Human Evolution
- Sacred Menstrual cloth? Inanna’s knot, Isis knot, and maybe Ma’at’s feather?
- Damien, why don’t the Hebrews accept the bible stories?
- Dealing with a Troll and Arguing Over Word Meaning
- Knowledge without Belief? Justified beliefs or disbeliefs worthy of Knowledge?
- Afrocentrism and African Religions
- Crecganford @crecganford offers history & stories of the people, places, gods, & culture
- Empiricism-Denier?
I am not an academic. I am a revolutionary that teaches in public, in places like social media, and in the streets. I am not a leader by some title given but from my commanding leadership style of simply to start teaching everywhere to everyone, all manner of positive education.
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Low Gods “Earth” or Tutelary deity and High Gods “Sky” or Supreme deity
“An Earth goddess is a deification of the Earth. Earth goddesses are often associated with the “chthonic” deities of the underworld. Ki and Ninhursag are Mesopotamian earth goddesses. In Greek mythology, the Earth is personified as Gaia, corresponding to Roman Terra, Indic Prithvi/Bhūmi, etc. traced to an “Earth Mother” complementary to the “Sky Father” in Proto-Indo-European religion. Egyptian mythology exceptionally has a sky goddess and an Earth god.” ref
“A mother goddess is a goddess who represents or is a personification of nature, motherhood, fertility, creation, destruction or who embodies the bounty of the Earth. When equated with the Earth or the natural world, such goddesses are sometimes referred to as Mother Earth or as the Earth Mother. In some religious traditions or movements, Heavenly Mother (also referred to as Mother in Heaven or Sky Mother) is the wife or feminine counterpart of the Sky father or God the Father.” ref
“Any masculine sky god is often also king of the gods, taking the position of patriarch within a pantheon. Such king gods are collectively categorized as “sky father” deities, with a polarity between sky and earth often being expressed by pairing a “sky father” god with an “earth mother” goddess (pairings of a sky mother with an earth father are less frequent). A main sky goddess is often the queen of the gods and may be an air/sky goddess in her own right, though she usually has other functions as well with “sky” not being her main. In antiquity, several sky goddesses in ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia, and the Near East were called Queen of Heaven. Neopagans often apply it with impunity to sky goddesses from other regions who were never associated with the term historically. The sky often has important religious significance. Many religions, both polytheistic and monotheistic, have deities associated with the sky.” ref
“In comparative mythology, sky father is a term for a recurring concept in polytheistic religions of a sky god who is addressed as a “father”, often the father of a pantheon and is often either a reigning or former King of the Gods. The concept of “sky father” may also be taken to include Sun gods with similar characteristics, such as Ra. The concept is complementary to an “earth mother“. “Sky Father” is a direct translation of the Vedic Dyaus Pita, etymologically descended from the same Proto-Indo-European deity name as the Greek Zeûs Pater and Roman Jupiter and Germanic Týr, Tir or Tiwaz, all of which are reflexes of the same Proto-Indo-European deity’s name, *Dyēus Ph₂tḗr. While there are numerous parallels adduced from outside of Indo-European mythology, there are exceptions (e.g. In Egyptian mythology, Nut is the sky mother and Geb is the earth father).” ref
Tutelary deity
“A tutelary (also tutelar) is a deity or spirit who is a guardian, patron, or protector of a particular place, geographic feature, person, lineage, nation, culture, or occupation. The etymology of “tutelary” expresses the concept of safety and thus of guardianship. In late Greek and Roman religion, one type of tutelary deity, the genius, functions as the personal deity or daimon of an individual from birth to death. Another form of personal tutelary spirit is the familiar spirit of European folklore.” ref
“A tutelary (also tutelar) in Korean shamanism, jangseung and sotdae were placed at the edge of villages to frighten off demons. They were also worshiped as deities. Seonangshin is the patron deity of the village in Korean tradition and was believed to embody the Seonangdang. In Philippine animism, Diwata or Lambana are deities or spirits that inhabit sacred places like mountains and mounds and serve as guardians. Such as: Maria Makiling is the deity who guards Mt. Makiling and Maria Cacao and Maria Sinukuan. In Shinto, the spirits, or kami, which give life to human bodies come from nature and return to it after death. Ancestors are therefore themselves tutelaries to be worshiped. And similarly, Native American beliefs such as Tonás, tutelary animal spirit among the Zapotec and Totems, familial or clan spirits among the Ojibwe, can be animals.” ref
“A tutelary (also tutelar) in Austronesian beliefs such as: Atua (gods and spirits of the Polynesian peoples such as the Māori or the Hawaiians), Hanitu (Bunun of Taiwan‘s term for spirit), Hyang (Kawi, Sundanese, Javanese, and Balinese Supreme Being, in ancient Java and Bali mythology and this spiritual entity, can be either divine or ancestral), Kaitiaki (New Zealand Māori term used for the concept of guardianship, for the sky, the sea, and the land), Kawas (mythology) (divided into 6 groups: gods, ancestors, souls of the living, spirits of living things, spirits of lifeless objects, and ghosts), Tiki (Māori mythology, Tiki is the first man created by either Tūmatauenga or Tāne and represents deified ancestors found in most Polynesian cultures). ” ref, ref, ref, ref, ref, ref, ref
Mesopotamian Tutelary Deities can be seen as ones related to City-States
“Historical city-states included Sumerian cities such as Uruk and Ur; Ancient Egyptian city-states, such as Thebes and Memphis; the Phoenician cities (such as Tyre and Sidon); the five Philistine city-states; the Berber city-states of the Garamantes; the city-states of ancient Greece (the poleis such as Athens, Sparta, Thebes, and Corinth); the Roman Republic (which grew from a city-state into a vast empire); the Italian city-states from the Middle Ages to the early modern period, such as Florence, Siena, Ferrara, Milan (which as they grew in power began to dominate neighboring cities) and Genoa and Venice, which became powerful thalassocracies; the Mayan and other cultures of pre-Columbian Mesoamerica (including cities such as Chichen Itza, Tikal, Copán and Monte Albán); the central Asian cities along the Silk Road; the city-states of the Swahili coast; Ragusa; states of the medieval Russian lands such as Novgorod and Pskov; and many others.” ref
“The Uruk period (ca. 4000 to 3100 BCE; also known as Protoliterate period) of Mesopotamia, named after the Sumerian city of Uruk, this period saw the emergence of urban life in Mesopotamia and the Sumerian civilization. City-States like Uruk and others had a patron tutelary City Deity along with a Priest-King.” ref
“Chinese folk religion, both past, and present, includes myriad tutelary deities. Exceptional individuals, highly cultivated sages, and prominent ancestors can be deified and honored after death. Lord Guan is the patron of military personnel and police, while Mazu is the patron of fishermen and sailors. Such as Tu Di Gong (Earth Deity) is the tutelary deity of a locality, and each individual locality has its own Earth Deity and Cheng Huang Gong (City God) is the guardian deity of an individual city, worshipped by local officials and locals since imperial times.” ref
“A tutelary (also tutelar) in Hinduism, personal tutelary deities are known as ishta-devata, while family tutelary deities are known as Kuladevata. Gramadevata are guardian deities of villages. Devas can also be seen as tutelary. Shiva is the patron of yogis and renunciants. City goddesses include: Mumbadevi (Mumbai), Sachchika (Osian); Kuladevis include: Ambika (Porwad), and Mahalakshmi. In NorthEast India Meitei mythology and religion (Sanamahism) of Manipur, there are various types of tutelary deities, among which Lam Lais are the most predominant ones. Tibetan Buddhism has Yidam as a tutelary deity. Dakini is the patron of those who seek knowledge.” ref
“A tutelary (also tutelar) The Greeks also thought deities guarded specific places: for instance, Athena was the patron goddess of the city of Athens. Socrates spoke of hearing the voice of his personal spirit or daimonion:
You have often heard me speak of an oracle or sign which comes to me … . This sign I have had ever since I was a child. The sign is a voice which comes to me and always forbids me to do something which I am going to do, but never commands me to do anything, and this is what stands in the way of my being a politician.” ref
“Tutelary deities who guard and preserve a place or a person are fundamental to ancient Roman religion. The tutelary deity of a man was his Genius, that of a woman her Juno. In the Imperial era, the Genius of the Emperor was a focus of Imperial cult. An emperor might also adopt a major deity as his personal patron or tutelary, as Augustus did Apollo. Precedents for claiming the personal protection of a deity were established in the Republican era, when for instance the Roman dictator Sulla advertised the goddess Victory as his tutelary by holding public games (ludi) in her honor.” ref
“Each town or city had one or more tutelary deities, whose protection was considered particularly vital in time of war and siege. Rome itself was protected by a goddess whose name was to be kept ritually secret on pain of death (for a supposed case, see Quintus Valerius Soranus). The Capitoline Triad of Juno, Jupiter, and Minerva were also tutelaries of Rome. The Italic towns had their own tutelary deities. Juno often had this function, as at the Latin town of Lanuvium and the Etruscan city of Veii, and was often housed in an especially grand temple on the arx (citadel) or other prominent or central location. The tutelary deity of Praeneste was Fortuna, whose oracle was renowned.” ref
“The Roman ritual of evocatio was premised on the belief that a town could be made vulnerable to military defeat if the power of its tutelary deity were diverted outside the city, perhaps by the offer of superior cult at Rome. The depiction of some goddesses such as the Magna Mater (Great Mother, or Cybele) as “tower-crowned” represents their capacity to preserve the city. A town in the provinces might adopt a deity from within the Roman religious sphere to serve as its guardian, or syncretize its own tutelary with such; for instance, a community within the civitas of the Remi in Gaul adopted Apollo as its tutelary, and at the capital of the Remi (present-day Rheims), the tutelary was Mars Camulus.” ref
Household deity (a kind of or related to a Tutelary deity)
“A household deity is a deity or spirit that protects the home, looking after the entire household or certain key members. It has been a common belief in paganism as well as in folklore across many parts of the world. Household deities fit into two types; firstly, a specific deity – typically a goddess – often referred to as a hearth goddess or domestic goddess who is associated with the home and hearth, such as the ancient Greek Hestia.” ref
“The second type of household deities are those that are not one singular deity, but a type, or species of animistic deity, who usually have lesser powers than major deities. This type was common in the religions of antiquity, such as the Lares of ancient Roman religion, the Gashin of Korean shamanism, and Cofgodas of Anglo-Saxon paganism. These survived Christianisation as fairy-like creatures existing in folklore, such as the Anglo-Scottish Brownie and Slavic Domovoy.” ref
“Household deities were usually worshipped not in temples but in the home, where they would be represented by small idols (such as the teraphim of the Bible, often translated as “household gods” in Genesis 31:19 for example), amulets, paintings, or reliefs. They could also be found on domestic objects, such as cosmetic articles in the case of Tawaret. The more prosperous houses might have a small shrine to the household god(s); the lararium served this purpose in the case of the Romans. The gods would be treated as members of the family and invited to join in meals, or be given offerings of food and drink.” ref
“In many religions, both ancient and modern, a god would preside over the home. Certain species, or types, of household deities, existed. An example of this was the Roman Lares. Many European cultures retained house spirits into the modern period. Some examples of these include:
- Brownie (Scotland and England) or Hob (England) / Kobold (Germany) / Goblin / Hobgoblin
- Domovoy (Slavic)
- Nisse (Norwegian or Danish) / Tomte (Swedish) / Tonttu (Finnish)
- Húsvættir (Norse)” ref
“Although the cosmic status of household deities was not as lofty as that of the Twelve Olympians or the Aesir, they were also jealous of their dignity and also had to be appeased with shrines and offerings, however humble. Because of their immediacy they had arguably more influence on the day-to-day affairs of men than the remote gods did. Vestiges of their worship persisted long after Christianity and other major religions extirpated nearly every trace of the major pagan pantheons. Elements of the practice can be seen even today, with Christian accretions, where statues to various saints (such as St. Francis) protect gardens and grottos. Even the gargoyles found on older churches, could be viewed as guardians partitioning a sacred space.” ref
“For centuries, Christianity fought a mop-up war against these lingering minor pagan deities, but they proved tenacious. For example, Martin Luther‘s Tischreden have numerous – quite serious – references to dealing with kobolds. Eventually, rationalism and the Industrial Revolution threatened to erase most of these minor deities, until the advent of romantic nationalism rehabilitated them and embellished them into objects of literary curiosity in the 19th century. Since the 20th century this literature has been mined for characters for role-playing games, video games, and other fantasy personae, not infrequently invested with invented traits and hierarchies somewhat different from their mythological and folkloric roots.” ref
“In contradistinction to both Herbert Spencer and Edward Burnett Tylor, who defended theories of animistic origins of ancestor worship, Émile Durkheim saw its origin in totemism. In reality, this distinction is somewhat academic, since totemism may be regarded as a particularized manifestation of animism, and something of a synthesis of the two positions was attempted by Sigmund Freud. In Freud’s Totem and Taboo, both totem and taboo are outward expressions or manifestations of the same psychological tendency, a concept which is complementary to, or which rather reconciles, the apparent conflict. Freud preferred to emphasize the psychoanalytic implications of the reification of metaphysical forces, but with particular emphasis on its familial nature. This emphasis underscores, rather than weakens, the ancestral component.” ref
“William Edward Hearn, a noted classicist, and jurist, traced the origin of domestic deities from the earliest stages as an expression of animism, a belief system thought to have existed also in the neolithic, and the forerunner of Indo-European religion. In his analysis of the Indo-European household, in Chapter II “The House Spirit”, Section 1, he states:
The belief which guided the conduct of our forefathers was … the spirit rule of dead ancestors.” ref
“In Section 2 he proceeds to elaborate:
It is thus certain that the worship of deceased ancestors is a vera causa, and not a mere hypothesis. …
In the other European nations, the Slavs, the Teutons, and the Kelts, the House Spirit appears with no less distinctness. … [T]he existence of that worship does not admit of doubt. … The House Spirits had a multitude of other names which it is needless here to enumerate, but all of which are more or less expressive of their friendly relations with man. … In [England] … [h]e is the Brownie. … In Scotland this same Brownie is well known. He is usually described as attached to particular families, with whom he has been known to reside for centuries, threshing the corn, cleaning the house, and performing similar household tasks. His favorite gratification was milk and honey.” ref
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“These ideas are my speculations from the evidence.”
I am still researching the “god‘s origins” all over the world. So you know, it is very complicated but I am smart and willing to look, DEEP, if necessary, which going very deep does seem to be needed here, when trying to actually understand the evolution of gods and goddesses. I am sure of a few things and less sure of others, but even in stuff I am not fully grasping I still am slowly figuring it out, to explain it to others. But as I research more I am understanding things a little better, though I am still working on understanding it all or something close and thus always figuring out more.
Sky Father/Sky God?
“Egyptian: (Nut) Sky Mother and (Geb) Earth Father” (Egypt is different but similar)
Turkic/Mongolic: (Tengri/Tenger Etseg) Sky Father and (Eje/Gazar Eej) Earth Mother *Transeurasian*
Hawaiian: (Wākea) Sky Father and (Papahānaumoku) Earth Mother *Austronesian*
New Zealand/ Māori: (Ranginui) Sky Father and (Papatūānuku) Earth Mother *Austronesian*
Proto-Indo-European: (Dyḗus/Dyḗus ph₂tḗr) Sky Father and (Dʰéǵʰōm/Pleth₂wih₁) Earth Mother
Indo-Aryan: (Dyaus Pita) Sky Father and (Prithvi Mata) Earth Mother *Indo-European*
Italic: (Jupiter) Sky Father and (Juno) Sky Mother *Indo-European*
Etruscan: (Tinia) Sky Father and (Uni) Sky Mother *Tyrsenian/Italy Pre–Indo-European*
Hellenic/Greek: (Zeus) Sky Father and (Hera) Sky Mother who started as an “Earth Goddess” *Indo-European*
Nordic: (Dagr) Sky Father and (Nótt) Sky Mother *Indo-European*
Slavic: (Perun) Sky Father and (Mokosh) Earth Mother *Indo-European*
Illyrian: (Deipaturos) Sky Father and (Messapic Damatura’s “earth-mother” maybe) Earth Mother *Indo-European*
Albanian: (Zojz) Sky Father and (?) *Indo-European*
Baltic: (Perkūnas) Sky Father and (Saulė) Sky Mother *Indo-European*
Germanic: (Týr) Sky Father and (?) *Indo-European*
Colombian-Muisca: (Bochica) Sky Father and (Huythaca) Sky Mother *Chibchan*
Aztec: (Quetzalcoatl) Sky Father and (Xochiquetzal) Sky Mother *Uto-Aztecan*
Incan: (Viracocha) Sky Father and (Mama Runtucaya) Sky Mother *Quechuan*
China: (Tian/Shangdi) Sky Father and (Dì) Earth Mother *Sino-Tibetan*
Sumerian, Assyrian and Babylonian: (An/Anu) Sky Father and (Ki) Earth Mother
Finnish: (Ukko) Sky Father and (Akka) Earth Mother *Finno-Ugric*
Sami: (Horagalles) Sky Father and (Ravdna) Earth Mother *Finno-Ugric*
Puebloan-Zuni: (Ápoyan Ta’chu) Sky Father and (Áwitelin Tsíta) Earth Mother
Puebloan-Hopi: (Tawa) Sky Father and (Kokyangwuti/Spider Woman/Grandmother) Earth Mother *Uto-Aztecan*
Puebloan-Navajo: (Tsohanoai) Sky Father and (Estsanatlehi) Earth Mother *Na-Dene*
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Hinduism around 3,700 to 3,500 years old. ref
Judaism around 3,450 or 3,250 years old. (The first writing in the bible was “Paleo-Hebrew” dated to around 3,000 years ago Khirbet Qeiyafa is the site of an ancient fortress city overlooking the Elah Valley. And many believe the religious Jewish texts were completed around 2,500) ref, ref
Judaism is around 3,450 or 3,250 years old. (“Paleo-Hebrew” 3,000 years ago and Torah 2,500 years ago)
“Judaism is an Abrahamic, its roots as an organized religion in the Middle East during the Bronze Age. Some scholars argue that modern Judaism evolved from Yahwism, the religion of ancient Israel and Judah, by the late 6th century BCE, and is thus considered to be one of the oldest monotheistic religions.” ref
“Yahwism is the name given by modern scholars to the religion of ancient Israel, essentially polytheistic, with a plethora of gods and goddesses. Heading the pantheon was Yahweh, the national god of the Israelite kingdoms of Israel and Judah, with his consort, the goddess Asherah; below them were second-tier gods and goddesses such as Baal, Shamash, Yarikh, Mot, and Astarte, all of whom had their own priests and prophets and numbered royalty among their devotees, and a third and fourth tier of minor divine beings, including the mal’ak, the messengers of the higher gods, who in later times became the angels of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Yahweh, however, was not the ‘original’ god of Israel “Isra-El”; it is El, the head of the Canaanite pantheon, whose name forms the basis of the name “Israel”, and none of the Old Testament patriarchs, the tribes of Israel, the Judges, or the earliest monarchs, have a Yahwistic theophoric name (i.e., one incorporating the name of Yahweh).” ref
“El is a Northwest Semitic word meaning “god” or “deity“, or referring (as a proper name) to any one of multiple major ancient Near Eastern deities. A rarer form, ‘ila, represents the predicate form in Old Akkadian and in Amorite. The word is derived from the Proto-Semitic *ʔil-, meaning “god”. Specific deities known as ‘El or ‘Il include the supreme god of the ancient Canaanite religion and the supreme god of East Semitic speakers in Mesopotamia’s Early Dynastic Period. ʼĒl is listed at the head of many pantheons. In some Canaanite and Ugaritic sources, ʼĒl played a role as father of the gods, of creation, or both. For example, in the Ugaritic texts, ʾil mlk is understood to mean “ʼĒl the King” but ʾil hd as “the god Hadad“. The Semitic root ʾlh (Arabic ʾilāh, Aramaic ʾAlāh, ʾElāh, Hebrew ʾelōah) may be ʾl with a parasitic h, and ʾl may be an abbreviated form of ʾlh. In Ugaritic the plural form meaning “gods” is ʾilhm, equivalent to Hebrew ʾelōhîm “powers”. In the Hebrew texts this word is interpreted as being semantically singular for “god” by biblical commentators. However the documentary hypothesis for the Old Testament (corresponds to the Jewish Torah) developed originally in the 1870s, identifies these that different authors – the Jahwist, Elohist, Deuteronomist, and the Priestly source – were responsible for editing stories from a polytheistic religion into those of a monotheistic religion. Inconsistencies that arise between monotheism and polytheism in the texts are reflective of this hypothesis.” ref
Jainism around 2,599 – 2,527 years old. ref
Confucianism around 2,600 – 2,551 years old. ref
Buddhism around 2,563/2,480 – 2,483/2,400 years old. ref
Christianity around 2,o00 years old. ref
Shinto around 1,305 years old. ref
Islam around 1407–1385 years old. ref
Knowledge to Ponder:
Stars/Astrology:
- Possibly, around 30,000 years ago (in simpler form) to 6,000 years ago, Stars/Astrology are connected to Ancestors, Spirit Animals, and Deities.
- The star also seems to be a possible proto-star for Star of Ishtar, Star of Inanna, or Star of Venus.
- Around 7,000 to 6,000 years ago, Star Constellations/Astrology have connections to the “Kurgan phenomenon” of below-ground “mound” stone/wood burial structures and “Dolmen phenomenon” of above-ground stone burial structures.
- Around 6,500–5,800 years ago, The Northern Levant migrations into Jordon and Israel in the Southern Levant brought new cultural and religious transfer from Turkey and Iran.
- “The Ghassulian Star,” a mysterious 6,000-year-old mural from Jordan may have connections to the European paganstic kurgan/dolmens phenomenon.
“Astrology is a range of divinatory practices, recognized as pseudoscientific since the 18th century, that claim to discern information about human affairs and terrestrial events by studying the apparent positions of celestial objects. Different cultures have employed forms of astrology since at least the 2nd millennium BCE, these practices having originated in calendrical systems used to predict seasonal shifts and to interpret celestial cycles as signs of divine communications. Most, if not all, cultures have attached importance to what they observed in the sky, and some—such as the Hindus, Chinese, and the Maya—developed elaborate systems for predicting terrestrial events from celestial observations. Western astrology, one of the oldest astrological systems still in use, can trace its roots to 19th–17th century BCE Mesopotamia, from where it spread to Ancient Greece, Rome, the Islamicate world and eventually Central and Western Europe. Contemporary Western astrology is often associated with systems of horoscopes that purport to explain aspects of a person’s personality and predict significant events in their lives based on the positions of celestial objects; the majority of professional astrologers rely on such systems.” ref
Around 5,500 years ago, Science evolves, The first evidence of science was 5,500 years ago and was demonstrated by a body of empirical, theoretical, and practical knowledge about the natural world. ref
Around 5,000 years ago, Origin of Logics is a Naturalistic Observation (principles of valid reasoning, inference, & demonstration) ref
Around 4,150 to 4,000 years ago: The earliest surviving versions of the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh, which was originally titled “He who Saw the Deep” (Sha naqba īmuru) or “Surpassing All Other Kings” (Shūtur eli sharrī) were written. ref
Hinduism:
- 3,700 years ago or so, the oldest of the Hindu Vedas (scriptures), the Rig Veda was composed.
- 3,500 years ago or so, the Vedic Age began in India after the collapse of the Indus Valley Civilization.
Judaism:
- around 3,000 years ago, the first writing in the bible was “Paleo-Hebrew”
- around 2,500 years ago, many believe the religious Jewish texts were completed
Myths: The bible inspired religion is not just one religion or one myth but a grouping of several religions and myths
- Around 3,450 or 3,250 years ago, according to legend, is the traditionally accepted period in which the Israelite lawgiver, Moses, provided the Ten Commandments.
- Around 2,500 to 2,400 years ago, a collection of ancient religious writings by the Israelites based primarily upon the Hebrew Bible, Tanakh, or Old Testament is the first part of Christianity’s bible.
- Around 2,400 years ago, the most accepted hypothesis is that the canon was formed in stages, first the Pentateuch (Torah).
- Around 2,140 to 2,116 years ago, the Prophets was written during the Hasmonean dynasty, and finally the remaining books.
- Christians traditionally divide the Old Testament into four sections:
- The first five books or Pentateuch (Torah).
- The proposed history books telling the history of the Israelites from their conquest of Canaan to their defeat and exile in Babylon.
- The poetic and proposed “Wisdom books” dealing, in various forms, with questions of good and evil in the world.
- The books of the biblical prophets, warning of the consequences of turning away from God:
- Henotheism:
- Exodus 20:23 “You shall not make other gods besides Me (not saying there are no other gods just not to worship them); gods of silver or gods of gold, you shall not make for yourselves.”
- Polytheism:
- Judges 10:6 “Then the sons of Israel again did evil in the sight of the LORD, served the Baals and the Ashtaroth, the gods of Aram, the gods of Sidon, the gods of Moab, the gods of the sons of Ammon, and the gods of the Philistines; thus they forsook the LORD and did not serve Him.”
- 1 Corinthians 8:5 “For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords.”
- Monotheism:
- Isaiah 43:10 “You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.
Around 2,570 to 2,270 Years Ago, there is a confirmation of atheistic doubting as well as atheistic thinking, mainly by Greek philosophers. However, doubting gods is likely as old as the invention of gods and should destroy the thinking that belief in god(s) is the “default belief”. The Greek word is apistos (a “not” and pistos “faithful,”), thus not faithful or faithless because one is unpersuaded and unconvinced by a god(s) claim. Short Definition: unbelieving, unbeliever, or unbelief.
Expressions of Atheistic Thinking:
- Around 2,600 years ago, Ajita Kesakambali, ancient Indian philosopher, who is the first known proponent of Indian materialism. ref
- Around 2,535 to 2,475 years ago, Heraclitus, Greek pre-Socratic philosopher, a native of the Greek city Ephesus, Ionia, on the coast of Anatolia, also known as Asia Minor or modern Turkey. ref
- Around 2,500 to 2,400 years ago, according to The Story of Civilization book series certain African pygmy tribes have no identifiable gods, spirits, or religious beliefs or rituals, and even what burials accrue are without ceremony. ref
- Around 2,490 to 2,430 years ago, Empedocles, Greek pre-Socratic philosopher and a citizen of Agrigentum, a Greek city in Sicily. ref
- Around 2,460 to 2,370 years ago, Democritus, Greek pre-Socratic philosopher considered to be the “father of modern science” possibly had some disbelief amounting to atheism. ref
- Around 2,399 years ago or so, Socrates, a famous Greek philosopher was tried for sinfulness by teaching doubt of state gods. ref
- Around 2,341 to 2,270 years ago, Epicurus, a Greek philosopher known for composing atheistic critics and famously stated, “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god?” ref
This last expression by Epicurus, seems to be an expression of Axiological Atheism. To understand and utilize value or actually possess “Value Conscious/Consciousness” to both give a strong moral “axiological” argument (the problem of evil) as well as use it to fortify humanism and positive ethical persuasion of human helping and care responsibilities. Because value-blindness gives rise to sociopathic/psychopathic evil.
While hallucinogens are associated with shamanism, it is alcohol that is associated with paganism.
The Atheist-Humanist-Leftist Revolutionaries Shows in the prehistory series:
Show two: Pre-animism 300,000 years old and animism 100,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”
Show tree: Totemism 50,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”
Show four: Shamanism 30,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”
Show five: Paganism 12,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”
Show six: Emergence of hierarchy, sexism, slavery, and the new male god dominance: Paganism 7,000-5,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Capitalism) (World War 0) Elite and their slaves!
Prehistory: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” the division of labor, power, rights, and recourses: VIDEO
Pre-animism 300,000 years old and animism 100,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”: VIDEO
Totemism 50,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”: VIDEO
Shamanism 30,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”: VIDEO
Paganism 12,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Pre-Capitalism): VIDEO
Paganism 7,000-5,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Capitalism) (World War 0) Elite and their slaves: VIEDO
Paganism 5,000 years old: progressed organized religion and the state: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Kings and the Rise of the State): VIEDO
Paganism 4,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (First Moralistic gods, then the Origin time of Monotheism): VIEDO
I do not hate simply because I challenge and expose myths or lies any more than others being thought of as loving simply because of the protection and hiding from challenge their favored myths or lies.
The truth is best championed in the sunlight of challenge.
An archaeologist once said to me “Damien religion and culture are very different”
My response, So are you saying that was always that way, such as would you say Native Americans’ cultures are separate from their religions? And do you think it always was the way you believe?
I had said that religion was a cultural product. That is still how I see it and there are other archaeologists that think close to me as well. Gods too are the myths of cultures that did not understand science or the world around them, seeing magic/supernatural everywhere.
I personally think there is a goddess and not enough evidence to support a male god at Çatalhöyük but if there was both a male and female god and goddess then I know the kind of gods they were like Proto-Indo-European mythology.
This series idea was addressed in, Anarchist Teaching as Free Public Education or Free Education in the Public: VIDEO
Our 12 video series: Organized Oppression: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of power (9,000-4,000 years ago), is adapted from: The Complete and Concise History of the Sumerians and Early Bronze Age Mesopotamia (7000-2000 BC): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szFjxmY7jQA by “History with Cy“
Show #1: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (Samarra, Halaf, Ubaid)
Show #2: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power
Show #3: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (Uruk and the First Cities)
Show #4: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (First Kings)
Show #5: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (Early Dynastic Period)
Show #6: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power
Show #7: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (Sargon and Akkadian Rule)
Show #9: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (Gudea of Lagash and Utu-hegal)
Show #12: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of Power (Aftermath and Legacy of Sumer)
The “Atheist-Humanist-Leftist Revolutionaries”
Cory Johnston ☭ Ⓐ Atheist Leftist @Skepticallefty & I (Damien Marie AtHope) @AthopeMarie (my YouTube & related blog) are working jointly in atheist, antitheist, antireligionist, antifascist, anarchist, socialist, and humanist endeavors in our videos together, generally, every other Saturday.
Why Does Power Bring Responsibility?
Think, how often is it the powerless that start wars, oppress others, or commit genocide? So, I guess the question is to us all, to ask, how can power not carry responsibility in a humanity concept? I know I see the deep ethical responsibility that if there is power their must be a humanistic responsibility of ethical and empathic stewardship of that power. Will I be brave enough to be kind? Will I possess enough courage to be compassionate? Will my valor reach its height of empathy? I as everyone, earns our justified respect by our actions, that are good, ethical, just, protecting, and kind. Do I have enough self-respect to put my love for humanity’s flushing, over being brought down by some of its bad actors? May we all be the ones doing good actions in the world, to help human flourishing.
I create the world I want to live in, striving for flourishing. Which is not a place but a positive potential involvement and promotion; a life of humanist goal precision. To master oneself, also means mastering positive prosocial behaviors needed for human flourishing. I may have lost a god myth as an atheist, but I am happy to tell you, my friend, it is exactly because of that, leaving the mental terrorizer, god belief, that I truly regained my connected ethical as well as kind humanity.
Cory and I will talk about prehistory and theism, addressing the relevance to atheism, anarchism, and socialism.
At the same time as the rise of the male god, 7,000 years ago, there was also the very time there was the rise of violence, war, and clans to kingdoms, then empires, then states. It is all connected back to 7,000 years ago, and it moved across the world.
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Damien Marie AtHope (“At Hope”) Axiological Atheist, Anti-theist, Anti-religionist, Secular Humanist. Rationalist, Writer, Artist, Poet, Philosopher, Advocate, Activist, Psychology, and Armchair Archaeology/Anthropology/Historian.
Damien is interested in: Freedom, Liberty, Justice, Equality, Ethics, Humanism, Science, Atheism, Antiteism, Antireligionism, Ignosticism, Left-Libertarianism, Anarchism, Socialism, Mutualism, Axiology, Metaphysics, LGBTQI, Philosophy, Advocacy, Activism, Mental Health, Psychology, Archaeology, Social Work, Sexual Rights, Marriage Rights, Woman’s Rights, Gender Rights, Child Rights, Secular Rights, Race Equality, Ageism/Disability Equality, Etc. And a far-leftist, “Anarcho-Humanist.”
I am not a good fit in the atheist movement that is mostly pro-capitalist, I am anti-capitalist. Mostly pro-skeptic, I am a rationalist not valuing skepticism. Mostly pro-agnostic, I am anti-agnostic. Mostly limited to anti-Abrahamic religions, I am an anti-religionist.
To me, the “male god” seems to have either emerged or become prominent around 7,000 years ago, whereas the now favored monotheism “male god” is more like 4,000 years ago or so. To me, the “female goddess” seems to have either emerged or become prominent around 11,000-10,000 years ago or so, losing the majority of its once prominence around 2,000 years ago due largely to the now favored monotheism “male god” that grow in prominence after 4,000 years ago or so.
My Thought on the Evolution of Gods?
Animal protector deities from old totems/spirit animal beliefs come first to me, 13,000/12,000 years ago, then women as deities 11,000/10,000 years ago, then male gods around 7,000/8,000 years ago. Moralistic gods around 5,000/4,000 years ago, and monotheistic gods around 4,000/3,000 years ago.
Damien Marie AtHope (Said as “At” “Hope”)/(Autodidact Polymath but not good at math):
Axiological Atheist, Anti-theist, Anti-religionist, Secular Humanist, Rationalist, Writer, Artist, Jeweler, Poet, “autodidact” Philosopher, schooled in Psychology, and “autodidact” Armchair Archaeology/Anthropology/Pre-Historian (Knowledgeable in the range of: 1 million to 5,000/4,000 years ago). I am an anarchist socialist politically. Reasons for or Types of Atheism
My Website, My Blog, & Short-writing or Quotes, My YouTube, Twitter: @AthopeMarie, and My Email: damien.marie.athope@gmail.com