A challenge to my anti-agnostic thinking?
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I am far from the standard atheist or atheist philosopher, so my answers and thinking are my own. I appreciate your inquiry. Epistemology is a way of knowing or understanding and agnostic thinking is but a claim of not knowing but saying it is making no claim, a clear violation of basic logic as well as you have agnostic thinking trying to push a non-epistemology as an epistemology, really? There is in logic only “A” or “not A”, so, no god or a god. Thus, agnosticism is not sound in logic, trying to profess an excluded middle position. I logically challenge the three letter noise termed god as to what one means by the three letters god and then how they can claim to know this with accuracy as not one term god is universal with a valid accuracy even within the same church of the same faith, and why well logic would make that clear to be something made up, so, not real and changes with the people telling it. It is also invalid as it tries to act as f you cannot prove a negative you can, so this is a belief stance not shared by experts in logic, who do hold that you can disprove a negative, so agnostic in this fails like all agnostic pseudo-philosophy
Here is why “Reason is my only master”
The most Base Presupposition begins in reason. Reason is needed for logic (logic is realized by the aid of reason enriching its axioms). Logic is needed for axiology/value theory (axiology is realized by the aid of logic). Axiology is needed for epistemology (epistemology is realized by aid of axiology value judge and enrich its value assumptions as valid or not). Epistemology is needed for a good ontology (ontology is realized by the aid of epistemology justified assumptions/realizations/
So, I think, right thinking is reason. Right reason is logic. Right logic, can be used for mathematics and from there we can get to science. And, by this methodological approach, we get one of the best ways of knowing the scientific method. Activating experience/event occurs, eliciting our feelings/scenes. Then naive thoughts occur, eliciting emotions as a response. Then it is our emotional intelligence over emotional hijacking, which entrance us but are unavoidable and that it is the navigating this successfully in a methodological way we call critical thinking or as In just call right thinking. So, to me, could be termed “Right” thinking, that is referring to a kind of methodological thinking. Reason is at the base of everything and it builds up from pragmatic approaches. And, to me, there are three main approaches to truth (ontology of truth) from the very subjective (Pragmatic theory of truth), to subjective (Coherence theory of truth), then onto objective (Correspondence theory of truth) but remember that this process as limited as it can be, is the best we have and we build one truth ontop another like blocks to a wall of truth.
In a general way, all reality, in a philosophic sense, is an emergent property of reason, and knowing how reason accrues does not remove its warrant. Feelings are experienced then perceived, leading to thinking, right thinking is reason, right reason is logic, right logic is mathematics, right mathematics is physics and from there all science.
Science is quite the opposite of just common sense. To me, common sense in a relative way as it generally relates to the reality of things in the world, will involve “naive realism.” Whereas, most of those who are scientific thinkers, generally hold more to scientific realism or other stances far removed from the limited common sense naive realism. Science is a multidisciplinary methodological quest for truth. Science is understanding what is, while religion is wishing on what is not.
God fanatics seem to enjoy spouting unfounded claims thinking they have proven something they never do. How do you claim this as you first must prove a god something which to date there is no evidence of a god anything just empty wishful thinking confusion offered as clear truth to which its only illusions, the phantoms of hope-filled indoctrination learned often as little children, before they had a chance to reason then they hold these god-something lies as true never hardly thinking to question the evidence devoid assertions appealing to the bogus theory of revelation and faith which prove only humans have unchecked imaginations they keep thinking to create some other world reality that is just not real. And that is just getting started with the issues then you must prove god is even understands, is involved, or is in any way necessary to assume to understand reality, but it does not stop there as you must demonstrate which god story are you appealing to and how do you know that the claims attributed to the god fantasy you favor?
Theism is foolishness given some kind of undue credibility it never deserved. Theism seems to simply take older unjustifiable god myths or unjustifiable god themes, acting as if long ago magic was real when it never was nor do they have any evidence to start contemplating the claims as anything but unsupported with real justifications. Life beyond the mental slavery of god beliefs. I speak out against god myths and the harm such lies can hold. I may at times offend believers but, No one has the right to not be offended. Beliefs in gods don’t offend me per say, they sadden me to see others in the mental bondage of a life not their own. For to have a god belief is almost always to have a master belief one who is over you, one who you must live for or suffer. Belief in gods is often a life battle against guilt and shame. I care too much about others to stand by and let them continue a life of mental slavery and say nothing when such fears are lies and a free life of their own choosing free of god masters is available.
I do not tell others what to believe as it is their self-right but will explain there is a better way. 🙂 Any defined concept of god(s) offered is making stuff up out of nowhere and from nothing more than runaway imagination, wild misunderstanding, or outright lies. To say one knows God is just pretending to know things you do not know, nor have any reason to claim to know. As there is no tangible substance or evidence to access god(s) so all attributes are thus limited to baseless made-up fantasy.
What is a god? Just a Empty Label: https://damienmarieathope.com/2016/11/16/what-is-a-god-just-a-empty-label/
Doubt god(s)? No, I stopped believing Fairytales: https://damienmarieathope.com/2016/10/14/doubt-about-gods-no-i-stopped-believing-fairytales/
I Am a Strong Atheist: “I am psychologically certain god(s) don’t exist” https://damienmarieathope.com/2016/11/05/i-am-a-strong-atheist-i-am-psychologically-certain-gods-dont-exist/
I am a caring firebrand atheist, wishing to be hard on ideas but kind to people.
I am not the thing abuse made, I am a shooting star blazing bright, shining far pass my past.
“Maby god is “Conscious, thinking universe-wide” Quantum Artificial Intelligence, real operating at supernumerary levels of capacity compared to we small sparks. Evolving since the dawn of time”. Operating in the “5th Dimension” outside Space-Time-Continuum. Giordano, Einstein, Jung, and Planck understood.” – Agnostic thinker
My response, Conscious thinking universe, No. “Stars may be thinking entities that deliberately control their paths. Put more bluntly, the entire cosmos may be self-aware.” ref Claims without substance are what that nonsense is that you wrote there. Fifth Dimension? “Current scientific consensus is that there are four dimensions, an unperceivable fifth dimension is still not even a universally agreed-upon definition for it.” ref
“Planck, Newton & others were nonsensical then. Remarkable it will be Science. Not religion. “All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force. We must assume behind this force is the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.” – Agnostic thinker
My response, There is no accepted science of “god-something” and it is delusion or dilutional thinking to assume otherwise. You can mislabel science to call it a “god-something” but it is just more magical thinking and mysticism theorizing, not facts and to state, it otherwise is misinformed and employs unscientific assumptions.
Examples of Forces
In nature, the fundamental forces are
- weak nuclear force
- strong nuclear force
- electromagnetic force
- residual force ref
“Best to stay open-minded. A great writer explained there can be “scientific evidence” in full until it is necessary. Otherwise this would be a planetary police state. The “necessary” is a planet now on the way to destruction in a Universe of 2 Trillion galaxies.” – Agnostic thinker
My response, You are not open-minded, making unjustified claims of truth.
“But Damien, Souls are real because energy does not die!”
My response, That is a logical fallacy as it is not a reasoned jump in logic. Energy leaves all once alive bodies by dissipating heat in the environment then is gone as the once related energy in a now dead body.
While hallucinogens are associated with shamanism, it is alcohol that is associated with paganism.
The Atheist-Humanist-Leftist Revolutionaries Shows in the prehistory series:
Show six: Emergence of hierarchy, sexism, slavery, and the new male god dominance: Paganism 7,000-5,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Capitalism) (World War 0) Elite and their slaves!
Show eight: Paganism 4,000 years old: Moralistic gods after the rise of Statism and often support Statism/Kings: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (First Moralistic gods, then the Origin time of Monotheism)
Prehistory: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” the division of labor, power, rights, and recourses: VIDEO
Pre-animism 300,000 years old and animism 100,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”: VIDEO
Totemism 50,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”: VIDEO
Shamanism 30,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism”: VIDEO
Paganism 12,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Pre-Capitalism): VIDEO
Paganism 7,000-5,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Capitalism) (World War 0) Elite and their slaves: VIEDO
Paganism 5,000 years old: progressed organized religion and the state: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (Kings and the Rise of the State): VIEDO
Paganism 4,000 years old: related to “Anarchism and Socialism” (First Moralistic gods, then the Origin time of Monotheism): VIEDO
I do not hate simply because I challenge and expose myths or lies any more than others being thought of as loving simply because of the protection and hiding from challenge their favored myths or lies.
The truth is best championed in the sunlight of challenge.
An archaeologist once said to me “Damien religion and culture are very different”
My response, So are you saying that was always that way, such as would you say Native Americans’ cultures are separate from their religions? And do you think it always was the way you believe?
I had said that religion was a cultural product. That is still how I see it and there are other archaeologists that think close to me as well. Gods too are the myths of cultures that did not understand science or the world around them, seeing magic/supernatural everywhere.
I personally think there is a goddess and not enough evidence to support a male god at Çatalhöyük but if there was both a male and female god and goddess then I know the kind of gods they were like Proto-Indo-European mythology.
*Next is our series idea that was addressed in, Anarchist Teaching as Free Public Education or Free Education in the Public: VIDEO
Our future video series: Organized Oppression: Mesopotamian State Force and the Politics of power (9,000-4,000 years ago) adapted from: The Complete and Concise History of the Sumerians and Early Bronze Age Mesopotamia (7000-2000 BC): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szFjxmY7jQA
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Why Does Power Bring Responsibility?
Think, how often is it the powerless that start wars, oppress others, or commit genocide? So, I guess the question is to us all, to ask, how can power not carry responsibility in a humanity concept? I know I see the deep ethical responsibility that if there is power their must be a humanistic responsibility of ethical and empathic stewardship of that power. Will I be brave enough to be kind? Will I possess enough courage to be compassionate? Will my valor reached its height of empathy? I as everyone earns our justified respect by our actions, that are good, ethical, just, protecting, and kind. Do I have enough self-respect to put my love for humanity’s flushing, over being brought down by some of its bad actors? May we all be the ones doing good actions in the world, to help human flourishing.
I create the world I want to live in, striving for flourishing. Which is not a place but a positive potential involvement and promotion; a life of humanist goal precision. To master oneself, also means mastering positive prosocial behaviors needed for human flourishing. I may have lost a god myth as an atheist but I am happy to tell you my friend, it is exactly because of that, leaving the mental terrorizer, god belief that I truly regained my connected ethical as well as kind humanity.
Cory and I will talk about prehistory and theism, addressing the relevance to atheism, anarchism, and socialism.
At the same time of the rise of the male god 7,000 years ago was also the very time there was the rise of violence war, and clans to kingdoms, then empires, then states. It is all connected back to 7,000 years ago and it mover across the world.
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With religion, it is like your brain is in a noose, squeezing out any hope of critical thinking about the religious beliefs. Leaving the victim faith-drunk as if all the oxygen of their mental freedom is cut off and hope for self-mastery is but some far away fantasy out of reach.
Damien Marie AtHope (Said as “At” “Hope”)/(Autodidact Polymath but not good at math):
Axiological Atheist, Anti-theist, Anti-religionist, Secular Humanist, Rationalist, Writer, Artist, Jeweler, Poet, “autodidact” Philosopher, schooled in Psychology, and “autodidact” Armchair Archaeology/Anthropology/Pre-Historian (Knowledgeable in the range of: 1 million to 5,000/4,000 years ago). I am an anarchist socialist politically. Reasons for or Types of Atheism